Offense: What do you want to see?

Submitted by Ron Utah on

Saturday looks like a cold, wet, midwestern day in Madison.  We'll need lights out defense and an offense to score 20 points or more if we're going to have a chance.  While the running game has evolved, the passing game still appears shaky at best.

What new plays/schemes do you most want to see in the next two weeks?

I would love to see a package featuring Gentry as the QB, lined-up in a four wide shotgun with DPJ, McKeon, Perry/McDoom, and Peters (to keep the personnel the same as some of our base personnel sets).  Higdon/Evans/Isaac at RB.  The whole package would be RPOs, with the base run plays being QB power and zone read. 

Peters would be lined-up as the boundary flanker, with Perry/McDoom in the slot.  DPJ and McKeon on the other side.  Gentry reads the box--if five defenders (LBs split to cover slots, two safeties outside the box), run QB power (RB is a lead blocker).  If six defenders, run zone read, with DPJ, McKeon, and P/McDoom running verticals and Peters stepping back behind the LOS.  Gentry has the option to give, keep, or throw, only throwing if McKeon or Perry/McDoom come free.  If defense crashes on QB Power, run the old Denard play where Gentry takes a step towards the LOS and then throws to a wide open slot receiver.

Let's take advantage our four-star QB turned monster TE.  Gentry's height makes these reads easy and I'm sure he can still throw to an open receiver in the seam.  There are all kinds of variants that would be a nightmare for opposing defenses, and putting this on film would require OSU to prepare for it.

I recognize that this is highly unlikely, but man, it would be amazing.

WestQuad

November 16th, 2017 at 6:46 PM ^

Beat Wisconsin.  Don't care how, but it would be nice to leave some tricks in the bag for OSU.

Beat OSU.   For whatever reason Ty Issac's production never hit a stride at Michigan, even though I think he has the tools.   I'd like to see him bust out and have a Tshimanga Biakabatuka type game against OSU so that 25 years later people sit around and say remember that Ty Issac game where he went for 319 yards against OSU.  Damn!

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3wSUL3kk1w

 

Double-D

November 16th, 2017 at 7:58 PM ^

A punishing effort from our defense. Giving the offense good field position. A running game that proves the last 3 weeks were real. Just enough balance from the pass game and yes please on the deep TD to DPJ.

socalwolverine1

November 16th, 2017 at 7:28 PM ^

Aggressive play calling: open up the playbook to get an early lead (like Penn State did to us). Only go conservative on short yardage situations; and even then go for a trick play once or twice to keep them guessing. Throw often on first down, short to mid-range passes set up with lots of play action and/or motion. Take advantage of Peters' rollout capability to create space for receivers and dump off options for RBs.

Show our big power formations, then have Peters pull back and hit a tight end streaking down the field, like the great play last week with Gentry for the TD.

Bottom line: play to win like our lives depend on it, rather than saving it for OSU. A win over Wisconsin would throw the B1G into a quandary and finally put our stamp on the season. I effing hate the idea that a Western Conference team is going to ride an easy schedule to the B1G Championship like Iowa did a few years ago.

mGrowOld

November 16th, 2017 at 7:35 PM ^

Enough solid QB from Peters that we win and then have 10-15 "why didnt Harbaugh put him earlier" threads next week bitching about the "what if" of the MSU game.   I'd love, love, love to see people here losing their mind complaining cause we're only 9-2 going into the OSU game.

That would be awesome.

Mr. Wigglez

November 16th, 2017 at 7:37 PM ^

I want to see the beefy baconator with Ruiz in as a 6th lineman and Mo Hurst at FB and they hand off to the hammering panda. 3 yards and a cloud of dust. Classic B10 football.

Perkis-Size Me

November 16th, 2017 at 8:03 PM ^

1) No injuries

2) Long, sustained drives. A few key third down conversions. Control the clock.

3) Attacking deep. Wisconsin will not respect our passing game coming into the game (nor should they), so attack them in the way they least suspect you will. Go deep. Get DPJ behind the defense (which is slightly banged up, I hear) and let’s see how good of an athlete he really is.

4) Peters standing tall in the pocket and being a true leader for this offense. When/if this team gets punched in the mouth on Saturday, if he makes a bad mistake like throwing a pick six, the crowd is going bonkers and you can’t even hear yourself think, is he going to shake it off, rally the troops in the huddle, and lead his offense right down the field? That’s what I want to see.

Mr. Wigglez

November 16th, 2017 at 8:05 PM ^

In all seriousness, I really want to see JBB hold his own against this front. JBB is a mauler and if he can pass protect for peters I think we are in really good shape. Also, Peters has done a good job of make improv plays which gives me a bit of hope. However, if he's running for his life the whole game then we may be in trouble. I have more confidence in peters than I do with the Wisc QB.

MadMatt

November 16th, 2017 at 8:48 PM ^

Seriously, this is an invitation to an excellent discussion, much more interesting that Dave Brandon--douche bag or f___ wad, discuss.

However, your 4 wide with Gentry at QB idea is insane (and not in a good, Harbaugh kind of way).

1) What does Gentry bring as a QB that Peters doesn't?  Can he throw the ball better?  No, that's why he's a TE.  Can he run the ball better?  No, Peters is fairly mobile; we haven't seen too many QB runs because we're down to our 3rd string QB and God help us if he gets hurt and we turn to O'Korn or Malzone in our most difficult two games of the season.  So what exactly are you asking Gentry to do taking the snap?  Be the lead blocker on a reverse?

2) What does Peters bring as a boundary receiver that Gentry doesn't?  Either he's an easily ignored decoy, or you're risking an injury asking him to do things he hasn't practiced.

There are so many other counter plays to our bread and butter plays that would be just as effective and would ask our players to use the skills they have actually practiced.  Gentry at QB is a counter looking for a non-existant base play.

What I would like to see is a coherent system of pass plays that will be effective counters to our potenting running attack, and can be executed by young receivers, a green QB, and our sieve-like pass protection.  As this site as beaten to death, a side-line fade to a guy shorter than 6' is not the answer.  Screens are easy to execute, and will slow the pass rush.  Quick slants haven't been used, but again they are easier than complex, long developing patterns, and the ball is out fast.  Finally, how about some high arcing "arm punts" that are thrown fast, but go way down field.  They would be especially effective on 3rd and medium if the defense cheats up to stop the quick first down passes.  Throw over the coverage.  Even if you convert only 1 of 3 tries in the first half, you will affect in the defense the rest of the game.  Lastly, how about some jump ball, high passes to our tall TEs?

The passing attack doesn't need to win the game.  We just need some Peters and a bunch of freshmen receivers can do well to take the pressure off of the running game and the defense.

1VaBlue1

November 16th, 2017 at 9:11 PM ^

This.

A pass attack developed to take advantage of athletic, tall TE's and DPJ's speed burning ability to get open deep - and to do it quickly, get the ball out fast.  A steady dose of quick hitters to back off the safeties and slow the pass rush.  Execute that well, trust the defense, and we have a great shot at winning.

Eye of the Tiger

November 16th, 2017 at 9:52 PM ^

All passing will be tough sledding against Wisconsin, who have far and away the best pass defense (and pass rush) we've seen all year. But we need to find ways to push safeties and LBs out of the box, and I figure one way to do that is with passes quick enough to mitigate their pass rush and timed blitzes. 

There are other ways, of course, and I figure we'll see more jumbo packages with designed to create mismatches for our TEs. But I would like to see us use the width of the field as well as the length. 

Wolfman

November 16th, 2017 at 11:54 PM ^

would you keep Peters in the NM mad man offense? Thinking Ambry or one of the receivers already on offense if you were going to do something that wild. Plus, I don't see the advantage of taking time away from a qb you're trying to get ready to play in big games, especially with a TE that washed out at the Qb spot. Let's face it, with a solid QB being the most difficult position to field, if he was viable there for a Harbaugh offense, he would be there. 

Snake Oil Steve

November 17th, 2017 at 12:19 AM ^

Would like to see the coaching staff empty the playbook in this game. Hopefully we'll put points on the board on our first drive using the script the coaches put in for the week. If the defense gets a stop early I'd like to see us actually try and shift between tempo and power using 3 TE and 1 WR sets (bring 3 TEs to start the drive to get their heavy personnel on the field and then run tempo with Mckeon and Gentry split out after that).

Bigly yuge

November 17th, 2017 at 12:54 AM ^

I want to see some 5 side sets with 2TE as slot guys. Work in some tempo and let Peters get into rhythm with several easy throws to start. Id like to see one or two nicely timed trick plays in situations like a second and one or a first down after a turnover. I feel like the offense can and will come to life with some early game success.

Caesar

November 17th, 2017 at 2:51 AM ^

The optimum for me would be a surprising amount of production from the continued use of Michigan's vanilla offense that's good enough for a win. Higdon and Evans get a couple hundred yards, maybe DPJ finally gets his big catch. Gentry gallops, and McKeon racks up a few 1st downs. Ho-hum, Michigan wins. 

Why? Because I want to see Michigan to unleash a Penn State-style of gimmick-laden hell on Ohio State. 

Don

November 17th, 2017 at 6:53 AM ^

and it never really happens, other than a gimmick play or two like the train. JH is in the mold of Schembechler and Carr—he's not going to try to beat you with unexpected stuff; it's just about out-executing you.

Zoltanrules

November 17th, 2017 at 9:58 AM ^

because the chances of being successful with no vertical threat, a less efficient ground game than Wisky or OSU, plus an inexperienced QB spell serious trouble. If we don't go down swinging and lose both these games, the season is MEH and very disappointing given the caliber of coaching staff we have.

I do expect them to unleash some new wrinkles. Wisky is not a game where we show up and rush like we did over Minnesota and  Maryland (for two quarters).