flashOverride

October 28th, 2014 at 8:35 AM ^

This is a program that should at least be winning the B1G every few years. 2004 was the last time, 2003 was the last outright, so I have to agree with a decade. 2006 was one mirage year sandwiched between 7-5 on one side, and Appalachian State + 39-7 + 91 yards against OSU at home on the other. Yes, Capital One Bowl too, but the players banding together to send a beloved coach out on a high note (not to mention with an unprecedented, "Where the fuck was this before???" opening of the playbook) doesn't make that season much better overall. We're at a decade, I hate to say. 

funkywolve

October 28th, 2014 at 11:59 AM ^

The plan was to have the playbook open all year but Henne and Hart getting hurt killed that idea.  While App St and Oregon were awful, they pretty much played a true freshman at QB or a seriously injured Henne and went 8-1 the rest of the way before the OSU game.  I'm not saying 2007 is a year we should be doing cartwheels and celebrations for cause the first two games were a shit show, but despite having Hart and Henne hurt for most of the year they managed to go into the OSU game with a chance to win the Big Ten title.

BluCheese

October 28th, 2014 at 3:44 PM ^

This is exactly right.  Before the season they hired Tom Moore as a consultant.  Tom Moore was the the Colts OC and was the one who developed the offense that Manning still runs to this day.

21-194-13

October 28th, 2014 at 12:17 AM ^

He should also call for DB to be fired. On his radio show, he keeps saying the students are only upset with him because the team is losing. 

PS-Hate to say this, but I gotta give credit to Drew Sharp. He had a great article about how Michigan must clean house and hire someone like Dan Mullen. No more Michigan man crap, just go out and hire the best coach available. 

michgoblue

October 28th, 2014 at 7:35 AM ^

Every so often my 3 year old son and I will play with my older son's foam dart set. My three year old usually just hits the wall, the ceiling or the floor. Occasionally, however, he hits a bullseye, likely by accident.

Drew sharp is a three year old who usually hits the floor, the ceiling, the wall or his own eye. This article is his accidental bullseye.

michgoblue

October 28th, 2014 at 10:24 AM ^

My 3-year old has significantly better grammar, offers more insight into Michigan football and is more likely to tell the truth than Drew Sharp.  He also claps when Michigan scores touchdowns and boos when the other teams do, so he could probably do a better job coaching the team than Hoke.  cc:  my younger son.

kehnonymous

October 28th, 2014 at 10:44 AM ^

So what if Drew Sharp wrote his first accurate column this month?  Do you give a stopped clock credit for being right twice a day?

If a Drew Sharp column was printed on soft-ply paper, I still wouldn't wipe my ass with it out of respect for my own poop.  Also, between him, Rosenberg, Mitch Albom, Rob Parker and God-knows-who-else, I feel like Detroit is to shitty hack sportswriters what Kenya is to long-distance runners.

jmdblue

October 28th, 2014 at 9:44 AM ^

The first article he'll write after we win a game or two will be how "it's nice that we're good now, but now we're just like the rest of cheatin', whorin', cuthroat college football".  The dream is to get back to the days of Bo.... Do it right and achieve an extremely high level of success.  In Sharp-world we either have to suck or cheat.  Anything else falls outside the narrative he's clung to for 15-20 years.

Tater

October 28th, 2014 at 12:21 AM ^

I would much rather have seen this piece be about David Brandon.  David Brandon can fire as many coaches and throw as many QB's under the bus as he wants, but the team will suck as long as he is the de facto coach.

Frieze Memorial

October 28th, 2014 at 12:37 AM ^

After all we've been through, I think I'm ready to expect that Hoke will find a HC job after a year off, and he will have wild success running old-school off tackle football. But he can't have that success now. No, we have to fire him to set him on his course to success.

SFBlue

October 28th, 2014 at 12:31 AM ^

Wojo has a lot of credibility and authority; this is significant.  He also says that is the call "[w]hether Dave Brandon or a new athletic director makes the call," which deftly avoids taking a position on that issue. 

M-Dog

October 28th, 2014 at 2:30 AM ^

It works to our advantage that the inevitable has become clear in October.  
 
Nothing will "officially" happen until very late November/December.  But you can be sure that all of the backdoor channels are being worked now that the writing is on the wall.  
 
Would-be candidates have time to throw their hats in the ring, talk to their wives, and make staffing plans.  
 
Having this occur in October instead of December will likely shake loose a few desirable candidates that wouldn't happen otherwise.

aaamichfan

October 28th, 2014 at 12:54 AM ^

I would be completely happy keeping Brandon and Firing Hoke. 95% of the disdain for Brandon goes away after basketball and a solid FB hire.

mgoSk

October 28th, 2014 at 1:27 AM ^

The issue for a lot of people is whether or not a good hire is possible with Brandon. Given his "hands on" approach, I can't blame legit candidates for looking elsewhere or for staying put. We'll see what happens if DB is still aboard when the next coaching search begins.

FreddieMercuryHayes

October 28th, 2014 at 8:12 AM ^

Can UM afford to take the risk of Brandon hiring the next coach?  If there's a new AD, the candidate pool becomes much wider.  And it's been widely reported that choice number 1, really the only coach possibly available at this point that would be a home run (provide excitement, coach good football, unify all factions of UM, is Michigan Man(TM), etc) will not come if Brandon is the AD. It gets quite hairy if UM has another down 3-4 years while MSU and OSU continue their upward trajectory.

michgoblue

October 28th, 2014 at 7:32 AM ^

I agree that Brandon likely needs to go, but the more immediate problem is Hoke. Provided that DB can make a great hire - a huge assumption - much of what we are all most upset over should go away, especially with the new student ticket prices and a president while likely has already told Db to stop being, well, a db.

So, my serious question: If you had the choice of (1) firing DB, bringing in a new AD and then having that new AD hire a decent, but not exciting, new HC (think someone like Kill minus the health problems), or (2) keeping DB with the kicker that he brings in either of the Har-bros, which option do you choose? To me, it's a no brainer. Option 2. Curious as to everyone's opinions on this.

FreddieMercuryHayes

October 28th, 2014 at 7:50 AM ^

I think your logic is waaaaaayy off. There is almost no imaginable scenario outside of a very unlikely 10 million per year pay check that brings any good head coach to AA with Brandon at the helm. He's a dead AD walking who now has a terrible rep in the coaching community. The only way UM gets a Harbaugh is without Brandon. Hoke is just a symptom of poor leadership at the very top, he's not the penultimate problem.


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michgoblue

October 28th, 2014 at 11:49 AM ^

I think that you are misunderstanding my post.  I was not saying that this would happen or that it was likely to happen.  I think that you are likely correct that Brandon would have trouble reeling in a Harbaugh-level coach.  That said, despite this result being unlikely, it is not out of the realm of possibility. 

That's why I thougt it would be an interesting hypo to consider to gauge what the biggest issue is for most people.  My theory is that while there are some people on this site and in the fanbase that really do hate all Brandon in his own right for some of the non-football performance issues (noodle, rawk, uniformz, ticket prices, etc.), the majority are most upset about the football team's performance and blame Brandon because he hired and hasn't fired Hoke.  Said differently, if we were on our 4th 9+ win season under Hoke and were tied atop the B10 standings heading into November, there would be WAY less push to remove brandon.  Perhaps there would be a push to drop ticket prices, or to tone down the marketing, but not to the level that we are seeing.

Noleverine

October 28th, 2014 at 8:09 AM ^

Brandon in a second. I've said it before but he is not going to just miraculously change because he was scolded by Schlissel. He has lost the trust of the fan base, has alienated current students and fans, and is only interested in his legacy.

For the long-term health of the program, get rid of Brandon. A new coach is secondary.


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Bill in Birmingham

October 28th, 2014 at 9:22 AM ^

Not a dig, an honest question: Do you honestly think a solid football hire is possible with Brandon remaining with the world knowing about him sitting in on film sessions, his handling of Shane-gate (and his implicit throwing Hoke under the bus in the process) and the intensity of the fan base's loathing of him. Any of those three items (I'm sure others could think of more) would make me very hesitant to work for him if I was a successful coach who had options, including the option of staying where I am. 

westwardwolverine

October 28th, 2014 at 10:40 AM ^

Beilein was a Martin hire. Dave Brandon hasn't done anything that any decent AD wouldn't have done. And pretty much any other AD candidate would be a better overall person and have done a better overall job. 

He's awful.