not to be outdone, MSU removes 2 players from active roster
anything you can do, i can do better...
http://detnews.com/article/20091028/SPORTS0202/910280430/1361/RBs-Cault…
hopefully, tomorrow we kick 3 guys off our team. come on, if we all pull together, we can win this battle!
EDIT: title of thread changed to avoid flagrant misinformation, and unfortunately lessen humor. as of now, there is no official comment as to why the players are no longer with the team (i.e. could be by choice)
October 28th, 2009 at 3:51 PM ^
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can they play linebacker? or maybe safety?
October 28th, 2009 at 3:54 PM ^
Good to know St. Dantonio runs such a tight ship, unless the guys a starter that is. *cough cough* Glenn Winston *cough*
October 28th, 2009 at 4:58 PM ^
I don't know if you meant to refer to him as Saint Dantonio, but I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.
October 28th, 2009 at 4:06 PM ^
I love how they add in at the end that Nick Hill is also coming. Not to mention he is the #46 RB in the nation.....
October 28th, 2009 at 4:06 PM ^
i wonder if dantonio will stop recruiting running backs from the lansing parole office now.
October 28th, 2009 at 6:25 PM ^
Hey, don't hate, obviously he owns the state, and that includes the state pen.
October 28th, 2009 at 6:57 PM ^
+1's to whoever has any idea what I'm talking about
October 28th, 2009 at 8:16 PM ^
Go Wassamatta U!
October 28th, 2009 at 8:39 PM ^
"Well, Natasha it is certainly good to be back on the campus."
"Back? Boris, you went college?! Penn State?"
"No, state pen."
October 28th, 2009 at 4:09 PM ^
The two guys dismissed, Caulton Ray and Andre Anderson, both appear to be back up running backs. Neither of them were rated very high.
Apparently they are still in the school. Odd that it doesn't say why they were kicked off the team.
October 28th, 2009 at 4:11 PM ^
Caulton Ray was essentially a starter at the beginning of the year, but he is/was buried now.
October 28th, 2009 at 4:13 PM ^
Ray's year actually mirrors Cissoko's somewhat. At the beginning of the season he was playing a fair bit, and his playing time decreased and then disappeared.
October 28th, 2009 at 4:09 PM ^
Unless they killed a guy, I'd imagine they are pretty pissed about the Winston double-standard.
October 28th, 2009 at 4:19 PM ^
Not that serious. Everyone murd ...
Nevermind
October 28th, 2009 at 4:16 PM ^
well, 1 player was kicked off the UM team for skipping class.
so, 2 players were kicked off the MSU team for... thinking about skipping class?
therefore, i demand 3 players be kicked off the UM team for attending class unenthusiastically.
October 28th, 2009 at 5:30 PM ^
No good man. State would just kick four guys off for attending but taking illegible notes. I mean, we all know what follows Go Green Go White.....they've got it wrapped up already.
October 28th, 2009 at 4:15 PM ^
to 97.1 when the change over from the karsch/anderson show went to valenti/foster. gator brought up the topic of the 2 kids being dismissed from the team, and they asked mike if he knew what was going on. he basically pleaded the 5th. so there could be a good chance that they kids did something really stupid or they weren't going to class.
October 28th, 2009 at 4:25 PM ^
Noticed that CRMB added Cissoko to the "Rodriguezed" threat, and one of the first posts was whether or not he would sign with MSU and if it would open up a pipeline to Cass Tech.
What I never understand about schools (and UM is guilty of this as well) is why they are so interested in nabbing kids kicked off other football teams. I understand that sometimes there are factors that may explain the dismissal, but if it is true that Cissoko wasn't going to class and was missing out on practices and study tables, I'm not sure going to a different school (but with the same pressures) is really going to help. Sure, the academic standards may be a bit more lax at another school, but it's not like he was being asked to study nuclear engineering or gain admittance to the b-school. Of course, if he does wind up going to MSU because UM was too academically rigorous, it would certainly be a backhanded compliment to MSU.
All of these kids might need to take a break from football for a bit and figure out what they want to do with their lives, and if playing D-1 football (and all the accompanying responsibilities) fits into that goal. You wish everyone the best, but being an athlete at D-1 school requires you to be on your game all week, not just on Saturday.
October 28th, 2009 at 4:34 PM ^
That's true. I have a hard enough time figuring out what I want to do with my life, and I don't have any sports to deal with.
October 28th, 2009 at 4:42 PM ^
They also have Jason Forcier and Bill Martin on that list.
I'm pretty sure it's tongue-in-cheek, especially Martin, but with the RCMB you never know...
October 28th, 2009 at 4:46 PM ^
They should really just start listing anyone who leaves the school, even some random professor in the history department who decides to retire. The list is starting to look like one of those bad SNL sketches where the joke just keeps getting hammered and hammered until it is impossible to laugh. Kind of like everything they did in the late 90's.
October 28th, 2009 at 4:56 PM ^
Like everything SNL did in the late 90's, or MSU. I guess both work.
October 28th, 2009 at 6:06 PM ^
the entire 2009 graduating class. I'm pretty sure they all left under RR's watch.
October 28th, 2009 at 9:49 PM ^
He's a destroyer of lives!
October 28th, 2009 at 4:48 PM ^
They also repeatedly claim to be the best 4 loss team in the nation, but Tennessee would anally abuse them.
October 28th, 2009 at 5:09 PM ^
i didn't realize that there was a trophy for best .500 team in the nation. good for them. i hope they win it.
October 28th, 2009 at 7:58 PM ^
Well, according to CFN.com, MSU fans are correct. Sparty is rated as the #21 team by CFN.com in their latest rankings. That's right, 4-4 MSU is the 21st best team in the country, folks.
October 28th, 2009 at 5:50 PM ^
It is going to be funny when they add Warren to that list when goes pro early.
October 28th, 2009 at 7:55 PM ^
not cool
I didn't neg ya though
October 28th, 2009 at 4:38 PM ^
That's hilarious. Well, Coach D-Bag has a reputation as an authoritative figure to preserve. He can't be outdone by that corner-cutting hotshot down in Ann Arbor.
October 28th, 2009 at 4:41 PM ^
one of the few battles I want state to win
October 28th, 2009 at 4:43 PM ^
by kicking two guys off the team who did far less than the better player....who is an ex con. nice move jackass.
October 28th, 2009 at 4:52 PM ^
Am I missing something? It doesn't mention anywhere that I've seen anywhere on the internet that the two were dismissed for doing any wrong. Every interpretation I've read is that they aren't getting playing time so they want to transfer to another school where they have a chance to play.
Where the hell did this idea that they broke rules come from?
October 28th, 2009 at 4:57 PM ^
maybe we're assuming too much.
If a kid comes and says I want to transfer after this sememster I would think you dismiss them immediately.
October 28th, 2009 at 5:01 PM ^
I agree that we might be jumping to conclusions, but it seems weird that kids would say they want to transfer with about a 1/3 of the season to go. You may be right, but usually they stick around until the end and then figure out about future playing time (which is the likely cause of a transfer).
October 28th, 2009 at 5:08 PM ^
That could be. The guys at The Only Colors were wondering what so long themselves. Most college transfer deadlines are in the next few weeks. Perhaps they were just putting in ample thought on the transfer and waited until the last minute. I mean, one of them was a projected starter before the freshman class came in and took there jobs (tuk der joabs? [/southpark]).
Still, jumping to the conclusion that they are thugs that are being dismissed from the team when not once does it say anything remotely close to that in the article is a bit over the top [/understatement].
October 28th, 2009 at 5:04 PM ^
good point. as of now there is no official comment as to why they were removed from the roster. i will update the thread title to reflect actual truth instead of imagined.
October 28th, 2009 at 5:13 PM ^
Good choice.
October 28th, 2009 at 5:25 PM ^
You sure it wasn't because of a deterioration of family values under Dantonio? From what I've read in the past that's the "only" explanation for why a player would transfer.
October 28th, 2009 at 4:56 PM ^
these kids either did something worse than Winston.....or.....Dantonio has a HUGE double standard problem now to explain to his players...(and the media, though they'll never ask).
Either that or its possible the AD stepped in here and said "ok Mark you got your one free pass but these guys have to be disciplined harshly."
October 28th, 2009 at 5:14 PM ^
well, if it turns out that these guys are just transferring, i guess it will finally answer the question about glenn winston: for him to be removed from the team, he would've had to assault someone, be convicted of misdemeanor counts of assault and battery and aggravated assault, spend 180 days in jail, AND request to transfer.
October 28th, 2009 at 6:37 PM ^
I have a buddy who is a manager on MSU's squad and he said it was because the kids refused to bring fur-covered condoms into Dantonio on Sunday.
October 28th, 2009 at 7:24 PM ^
I heard it was because they refused to pat his bottom:
http://www.detnews.com/article/20091027/SPORTS0202/910270415/1132/sport…
October 28th, 2009 at 7:15 PM ^
UM will never win a battle with MSU over removing marginal players from the team; MSU has an entire roster of marginal players to choose from.
October 28th, 2009 at 9:55 PM ^
If only we had a real man like Tate Forcier, we wouldn't have to settle for crappy two stars like this guy. Paul Something, his name was.
http://isportsweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/paulbunyan21.jpg
October 28th, 2009 at 11:17 PM ^
You better be happy with Paul Whatshisname because he is the only recruit you have managed to bring in the past 20 years. Maybe you should set your sights on Biggy Mctentitle or Nationaly McChampionsips (I believe they are both Irish recruits)
October 29th, 2009 at 12:24 AM ^
interesting that D'ton thought a Spartan still had his hands on the control when he expressed surprised how Iowa could get all of those plays off and still have 2 seconds left for the 4th down play. I seem to recall another game with a similar outcome in the same end zone which resulted in a rule change removing the homers from the clock controls.
October 29th, 2009 at 6:30 AM ^
I doubt he was serious. Just something to take attention away from his game management that has led to a .500 season in his 3rd year.
October 29th, 2009 at 9:27 AM ^
But he has had 2 winning seasons......in a row!