New York declares Daily Fantasy gaming illegal
Collossal idiocy IMO. I don't participate, but this industry created jobs, people love it, no one is getting hurt, taxes are getting paid, and there's just no justification whatsoever for stopping it.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/11/sports/football/draftkings-fanduel-ne…
November 10th, 2015 at 7:01 PM ^
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November 10th, 2015 at 7:22 PM ^
then we should be very circumspect about forbidding things IMO
November 10th, 2015 at 6:32 PM ^
but placing a bet on a game is illegal in MI at this time and no verbal gymnastics is gonna convince me that "fantasy" play ain't gamblin.
November 10th, 2015 at 6:32 PM ^
Awesome.
I say this not because I agree with them, but because of how awesome New York's entire government is.
From banning large soda's to daily fantasy gambling.
They really have their priorities in check.
The world needs to follow suit.
November 10th, 2015 at 6:37 PM ^
So...I made a deposit in early Sept on Draftkings and have increased it 170%*. Is it time to cash out for fear of losing it?
I lost cash** when the poker sites went dark.
* $10 deposit --> currently $27 in account
** about $1.17
/s (not the numbers, but the idea of cashing out in fear of losing it)
November 10th, 2015 at 7:05 PM ^
You didn't get any money back at all? My friend had a couple grand tied up in Full Tilt and got it back shortly after Poker Stars came in to settle things.
November 10th, 2015 at 7:41 PM ^
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November 10th, 2015 at 6:39 PM ^
Not to mention the fact that daily leagues are even more insidious because consumers are generally unaware of the advanced algorithms possessed by the few people who win most of the money.
November 10th, 2015 at 6:43 PM ^
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November 10th, 2015 at 6:47 PM ^
When you're talking about enormous information discrepencies in the business transaction that essentially amount to insider trading, then yes, it is their job.
November 10th, 2015 at 6:59 PM ^
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November 10th, 2015 at 7:20 PM ^
And if those few people were to take non-public information about a corporation's financial outlook and use it to trade assets without saying a word to the SEC, what (supposedly) happens to those people?
November 10th, 2015 at 8:48 PM ^
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November 10th, 2015 at 6:57 PM ^
Maybe we should also ban alcohol. I know people who've had their life ruined because they drink more than they should.
November 10th, 2015 at 6:36 PM ^
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November 10th, 2015 at 6:36 PM ^
I respectively disagree that there is no justification. Each state has the right to regulate commerce within its borders, just like the federal government has the right to regulate across state borders. New York has laws on their books that either regulate or outlaw gambling. The Attorney General believes what they are doing is a form gambling. FanDuel and DraftKings can go to court to prove him wrong but I have a stong feelign that they will lose.
November 10th, 2015 at 6:37 PM ^
"there's just no justification whatsoever for stopping it."
Except the fact that it's a violation of New York law.
November 10th, 2015 at 6:41 PM ^
Is that the same thing? Yes, that office has the right to do what they did--that's doesn't mean they are right in either their definition or their action.
November 10th, 2015 at 6:54 PM ^
Didn't New York city also ban large "sugary" drinks. They must know what is best for all of us!
November 10th, 2015 at 6:57 PM ^
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November 10th, 2015 at 6:39 PM ^
So you support breaking the law?
November 10th, 2015 at 6:44 PM ^
that like to tell others what they should be alowed to do. I couldn't be against that more (within obvious limits already against the law) so it's disappointing to see, but that's what makes for two sides I suppose.
November 10th, 2015 at 6:40 PM ^
What were the odds that this would happen?
November 10th, 2015 at 6:42 PM ^
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November 10th, 2015 at 7:20 PM ^
Most of the money is used to keep the lottery running.
November 10th, 2015 at 10:17 PM ^
So consumers don't have to worry about being cheated.
You can't just legalize gambling without creating some sort of regulatory board that protects consumers. Nevada's gaming control board is no joke.
What these cowboy tech bros did was find a loophole that allowed them to start a gambling website without the country making gambling legal, thus they get to operate without regulation or oversight. It's a neat scam but obviously it's not going to last because it's really, really obvious that they're gambling sites AND that they don't give a shit about their consumers.
When this is all said and done, it's going to make all that weird Ashley Madison fraud look like a church pancake social.
November 10th, 2015 at 6:51 PM ^
To add more fire to this flame, horse betting is also done in New York
November 10th, 2015 at 6:43 PM ^
While I will agree that there's a lot of politics involved in this decision, the daily fantasy companies' longtime insistence that they are not gambling sites has always been a bunch of bullshit. I played online poker, and if that entire enterprise can get shut down as gambling, then daily fantasy can get shut down too. To me there's no difference.
November 10th, 2015 at 6:51 PM ^
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November 10th, 2015 at 7:04 PM ^
If it were true I'd be able to place a bet legally on a college or pro team this weekend (thru your graft-rich gov't regulated system). I can't. My theory(s)? We have state-run lotteries because the return on investment is at least a little hard to hide (tough to pay a guy $1.50 on a $1.00 bet on a game).
I also suspect that while while drugs, prostitution, and loans have moved to small operators or large ones run by new immigrants, sports betting is still in the hands of very traditional organized crime and there are those who take donations that don't want the gov't to interfere with that.
November 11th, 2015 at 1:59 AM ^
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November 10th, 2015 at 8:30 PM ^
Fuck your mom.
opps, too late
November 10th, 2015 at 9:41 PM ^
November 10th, 2015 at 11:58 PM ^
Wow, um, can we just agree on this - FUCK penn state!
November 11th, 2015 at 12:03 AM ^
November 11th, 2015 at 11:21 AM ^
They put plastic bags elsewhere and try to keep them out of the grocery stores.
November 10th, 2015 at 6:52 PM ^
Politics on my sports blog MAKES ME FROTH AT THE MOUTH. RAARGARGLEBARGLE
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November 10th, 2015 at 7:02 PM ^
Hmmm, thinking about moving to NY now just so I can avoid the commercials...
November 10th, 2015 at 7:05 PM ^
November 10th, 2015 at 7:02 PM ^
so much politics in this situation