New Student Basketball Ticket Policy

Submitted by goblue7612 on

Looks like they VASTLY oversold basketball season tickets, and thus they need a new policy since they sold 4500 student tickets and only have seats for 3000. Information found in http://michigandaily.com/sports/athletic-department-announces-new-baske…

"Students will have a 72-hour period to select individual tickets to an upcoming group of games. If a student fails to use claimed tickets to two or more games, he or she will not be eligible to claim tickets for upcoming games."

"Though he does not anticipate that students who purchased season tickets will miss out on games they want to attend, they will review an individual’s attendance to determine who will receive entry to the Wolverines’ marquee fixture against Michigan State."

I thought someone had mentioned a policy like this for football tickets that they wanted to see in the sad picture thread.

I imagine ticket holders are pretty upset by this. The ticket office is essentially selling 4500 tickets, and taking the money, but only providing 3000 tickets. One question that is unanswered is what happens if more tickets are claimed than there are seats? Is it first come first serve? Also, it's real risky to sell your unused tickets because if the buyer ends up not using it, you get punished, severely.

Seems like the ticket office didn't plan ahead well, they should've just cut off sales when they hit 3000 and moved everyone else to a wait list. But in the email they sent on April 23, they said "The deadline is May 3 at 5:00pm. Student basketball ticket policies are available at www.mgoblue.com/ticketoffice under Students.  To be guaranteed a seat you should order now." Guess they couldn't do that after saying that.

Take your anger to them at @DaveBrandonAD and @HunterLochmann, or more conventional email methods.

goblue7612

September 17th, 2013 at 11:12 PM ^

Every time you let the ticket office get away with something, they'll keep pushing the envelope. When you fight back, they give in.

MMB to Dallas, Giant Noodle, Advertising on Field Goal Nets.

I'm starting to believe that Dave Brandon just throws ideas out there and sees what kind of backlash he gets to see if he can go ahead with it.

The more he gets away with, the more brazen he gets. It's student tickets now, eventually he'll find a way to get more money out of the general public beyond the PSL, or the PSL will just keep going up.

ChetChill

September 17th, 2013 at 11:12 PM ^

What were the terms given when buying the tickets?  If it's anything questionable, the law school has clinics that are designed to help people for nearly free, I'm sure they would love to look at it.  I'd also love to see legal action taken against this AD.

Team 101

September 17th, 2013 at 11:13 PM ^

I don't know how a student could know whehter he or she could attend a game when the game times haven't even been set yet and none of the students have schedules for winter term or know when exams are.  Is there a separate 72 hour period for each game and when is it?

Profwoot

September 17th, 2013 at 11:14 PM ^

Ok now the reaction has gotten ridiculous. If you can't be bothered to even attempt to see the logic behind what the AD is doing here, your opinion is invalid. Sports are emotional by nature so I get that it attracts folks who express their emotions without thinking, but god damn, people. This is a good change.

Geaux_Blue

September 17th, 2013 at 11:57 PM ^

The money doesn't exist until its fulfilled. They could also make less money conceptually by lowering student tickets or lowering admission or etc etc You can't claim they're doing it to make more money when every student has an ability to fulfill the initial offering. They only make money when the students fail to fulfill the ticket offer - no strongarm or guaranteed gain exists. And again, short of the department not refunding student money for the 1500 for premium games, no gain takes place until students fail to claim their ticket

TheGhostofChappuis

September 17th, 2013 at 11:52 PM ^

Uh yes, Geaux.

For a guy who's been insulting people and ridiculing them for criticizing the policy throughout this thread, you don't seem to have any idea of how it actually works.

Jesus you make our degrees look bad.

Geaux_Blue

September 17th, 2013 at 11:59 PM ^

3000 claim tickets to Indiana University gains nothing Fact. The only gain comes from unclaimed tickets. If there's no refund process to cover gains made by general attendance, then this process begins. Until then, there's not.

goblue7612

September 17th, 2013 at 11:23 PM ^

They have 3000 seats, but they're selling 4500 ($30,000). If any tickets are unclaimed by students, they'll be resold also. It's maximizing revenue by overselling with no penalty. If they wanted to be honest, they'd give all 4500 students that bought season ticket packages tickets, and get rid of 1500 single game tickets.

Geaux_Blue

September 17th, 2013 at 11:32 PM ^

A) I'd be stunned if kids are forfeiting cash for unclaimed tickets or games they can't access because of sellouts
B) The severe discount provided by the University students removes all self righteousness behind it

The people left out are the ones who show up for 5 games. That's it. When people can show actual theft (non refunds for games students are forced not to attend), THEN it's the university "making more money."

goblue7612

September 17th, 2013 at 11:36 PM ^

I'll be stunned if I see the ticket office returning money for games that students don't claim, I can't see them giving money back. The discount is because this is COLLEGE ATHLETICS, this is originally a game played for the students, now it's being turned into a moneymaking opportunity.

And my point by saying them being honest is their quote from the April 23rd email guaranteeing students who ordered by the deadline "a seat." Not guaranteeing a seat if and only if you go to every previous game you submitted a claim for.

BraveWolverine730

September 17th, 2013 at 11:27 PM ^

I'm fine with the change (as you can see from my arguments above), but they will be making more money. Say only 2000 students sign up for Coppin St out of 4000 (bc 500 give back tix because of RAGE). total. Well the A.D still gets the revenue from all 4000 students who bought season tickets and then can sell the remainder to either non-season tix holder students or the general public. So total revenue is 4000 students + 500 new students + 500 general public (for the 3000 student section seats in the arena). 

Geaux_Blue

September 18th, 2013 at 7:23 AM ^

So what is priority seating based upon years of ticket purchases, or donations, or standing with athletic dept?

What would be better? First across the finish line? Then we'd hear that they're only in it for the money and how system was gamed by people looking to only go to 3-4 games. If the student section wasn't regularly half full, this wouldn't be a problem. Are you ok with a half-full, on avg, student section? Is that worth letting 50% never show up but get 3-8th row court side seats for premium matchups?

Jon06

September 18th, 2013 at 10:07 AM ^

Wtf does that even mean? They've already voluntarily sold the tickets for a price the AD unilaterally chose. There is no potential value to be "recouped" in those seats, which should be empty if the people who own the right to sit in them choose not to go. There should be no additional hoops to jump through for people who bought season tickets. The students did not buy a season pass to a website where they can click "claim" if they know they want to go far enough in advance.

If I decide not to use my season tickets, the seats will be empty, period. The guy who owns the seats next to mine, who sells every game but the big ones on stubhub in order to profit from his tickets, still gets to come to the big games. The students are supposed to have bought the same deal. They can't be retroactively treated as second-class citizens because the AD is unhappy it couldn't get away with charging them more to begin with. And fuck old Lochdog if he thinks otherwise.

miaamark

September 18th, 2013 at 7:11 AM ^

The only reason they think they can do this is because f*** the students.  If they oversold the OSU football game by 55000 and you bought a ticket - they aren't giving your money back.  You are just screwed.

If you can't be bothered to look at the facts and say what the AD is doing is undefensible - your opinion is invalid.

 

miaamark

September 18th, 2013 at 9:29 AM ^

The policy is not "if you go to every game, you will have top prority for the big games (that you already bought a ticket for)".  It is not a carrot - it's a stick.  Even if you go to all the games, there is no guarantee that you can go to the big games.  Your argument is trying to deflect this basic truth.

SkyMaizeSunBlue

September 17th, 2013 at 11:24 PM ^

The policy makes perfect sense and improves soemthing that is in inefficent (empty seats at games) except for the fact the ath. dept. is not refunding people for games they do not claim. If they are able to resell a ticket....in other words sell it *twice* then the student should recieve their X amount per game back. As it stands, they created quite the murky new revenue stream.

WolverineinSB

September 17th, 2013 at 11:24 PM ^

IU sold like 15000 student basketball tickets this year and they only seat 8000 students per game so I only get like half of the games. It could be worse for the students at UM.

WolverineinSB

September 17th, 2013 at 11:45 PM ^

They told us we would get them all too. And they said it last year too and we got 2/3 of the tickets. The biggest benefit u have is that u can pick games u want. We get randomly assigned to the games we get. I didn't have tickets to the Michigan game in assembly hall last year and I didn't want to spend 400+ on one so I couldn't go.

BJNavarre

September 17th, 2013 at 11:28 PM ^

I only received student tickets to half the football games in '97, so I say suck it up students.

I DO think students have a legitimate gripe if they are not refunded for games they cannot get tickets to. It doesn't explicitly say that students won't receive refunds to games not attended in that Daily article, so maybe they will.

Those who are complaining that they've attended every game since they started going to school 25 years ago and Brandon is screwing them over - it sounds like you're likely to get tickets to every game anyway, so stop whining.