New ESPN 300

Submitted by I Like Burgers on January 10th, 2013 at 12:20 PM

ESPN released their new 150/300 today. Some big (downward) moves for Michigan recruits:

#88 Jourdan Lewis (+4)

#91 David Dawson (-4)

#93 Dymonte Thomas (+4)

#101 Patrick Kugler (+14)

#104 Logan Tuley-Tillman (+1)

#114 Mike McCray (-3)

#116 Taco Charlton (+3)

#127 Shane Morris (-73)

#134 Chris Fox (-21)

#157 Kyle Bosch (-30)

#182 Jake Butt (-6)

#232 Jaron Dukes (+1)

#254 Henry Poggi (+34)

#280 Ben Gedeon (+2)


Not so good for Shane.  Although he hasn't looked sharp at all for a while.  Hopefully he can redshirt and work on his accuracy and reading the whole field.



January 10th, 2013 at 12:34 PM ^

#127 Shane Morris (-73)

Before I clicked on this thread, I had a feeling he would drop.  -73 though!!!!!!!!  The kid had mono not to long ago fergodsakes.  

Now that I have that off my chest, they are just ratings and mean nothing come this fall.



January 10th, 2013 at 12:40 PM ^

thats what you get when they rank order every position within the same pool.  Shane falling that many spots is no big deal in the larger picture.  like you said, he had mono and just didn't get the exposure he needed to keep his position.  Once he's on campus and getting coached up, a 73 spot fall will mean two things:  Jack and Squat. 

eamus_caeruli (not verified)

January 10th, 2013 at 1:24 PM ^

Morris had a rough week at the UA game, so that makes perfect sense, frankly a generous drop versus much worse.  I hope the coaches know what they are doing, because I personally view Morris as needing a lot, and I mean a lot of work before perfoming at a Gardner level.  Hope I am wrong, and he exceeds all of our expectations.  

I wish they would have taken another QB the last two years, but they have their other priorities right now.  


January 10th, 2013 at 1:33 PM ^

Well, to be fair, it took 2 1/2 years for Gardner to perform at a "Gardner level."

Also, they did take a QB two years ago, Russell Bellomy. I believe last year's recruiting class is the only one to have skipped taking a QB.


January 10th, 2013 at 12:39 PM ^

Over/Under on how many people comment about Shane's drop is set at 50, Over/Under on how many people have a mental breakdown because of it, is set at 5.  How many people cancel or threaten to cancel thier ESPN insider account is 10.  Last but not least the number of times Mono is mentioned is set at 75.

San Diego Mick

January 10th, 2013 at 12:39 PM ^

full of shit. They create a meme and ride it out like a stubborn child.

Why did Shane fall so far and Hackenberg didn't, despite stinkin' up the joint too? And actually, Shane threw some nice balls in a setting where the defense has the advantage, I stated this earlier, I wish he had gone to the Army game instead, fuck espn.

Gareon Conley #41? really? If Green commits to us I bet espn lowers him too, they got too many ohio guys working for them and it seems like their recruits are more highly rated by espn than they should be.

There are many more examples of our class here with espn that makes me question their integrity or lack there of. I trust our coaching staff way more than espn to spot talent.

Dutch Ferbert

January 10th, 2013 at 12:44 PM ^

He's still top 300 despite missing a lot of time with mono. 13 commits in the top 300 is pretty solid (and we might be adding to that). Look at it this way: if college football had a draft, with each DI team getting one pick per round, Shane would be a first rounder, and so would several other M recruits. Several others would be second rounders.

Plus, a guy dropping a little bit might be good for the ego and might give him some extra motivation to prove himself.


January 10th, 2013 at 1:04 PM ^

Minor disagreement about your logic: Michigan only really competes with about 20 programs regularly. While there are 120 teams, there are only about 20 that matter (Alabama, USC, Texas, Oklahoma, OSU, UM, etc.) In that sense Shane would not be a first round pick among the traditional powers that actually have a shot at winning a NC in the next 10 years.

Dutch Ferbert

January 10th, 2013 at 1:53 PM ^

But my part of my point was that Michigan is solidly in the top 20 programs, top 5 really, if they are taking so many of the top 300. The difference between someone ranked 75 and 175 is miniscule and subjective. Rankings are obviously subjective when you look at the variance among the various recruiting sites. Part of the reason I love this blog is the composite recruiting rankings that show where each recruit is rated by each recruiting service.

Plus, Shane might still be a #1 pick for the top 20 teams if a team needs a QB like him for their system.


January 10th, 2013 at 12:50 PM ^

ESPN recruiting is a clownshow. Why would one game in which neither offense did well drop him so far? They obviously thought he was very good before, but after seeing one game playing with a bunch of guys he barely knows they realized he actually is not that good? All the recruiting sites are too hyper reactive. I guess that's what keeps interest high for them. Someone more reasonable should start a new service. I would subscribe.


January 10th, 2013 at 1:46 PM ^

Their rankings actually get seen by the general public because of ESPN's coverage of signing day. 

People who closely follow recruiting or majority of the people on the blog might know the difference.  Some college football fan who doesn't follow recruiting doesn't know the difference between Rivals, Scout, ESPN or 247sports.


January 10th, 2013 at 1:12 PM ^

ESPN's outrageous recruiting rankings don't bother me as much as their lack of explanation (for major changes). It's like the only explanation they feel that it is necessary is "WWL."  I also love those recruiting evals that don't even match the players' ratings.


January 10th, 2013 at 8:39 PM ^

Seriously?  What is "the Tom Brady thing?"  M fans being proud of one of their most successful alumni?

The coaches thought plenty of him, as evidenced by their choice to play him over a highly touted (and talented) underclassman who also happened to be a hometown boy and fan favorite.  I've never heard TB say anything bad about the coaches, so I'm sure he would disagree with you too.