The negativity about Coach Harbaugh is irrational.

Saban was barely better than that after his first 4 years at LSU and Bama? After 4 years at LSU he had 2 conference championships, a national championship and 3 bowl wins.  After 4 years at Bama he had 2 conference championships, a national championships and 3 bowl wins. Try again and thanks for playing.

I don't think most want a change in the Head Coach.  I think we are perplexed at team preparation/performance in big games and bowl games.  I know Coach Harbaugh is creative and very innovative, but he seems to have gone into a shell with the offensive style of play.  Very bland playcalling and not using our best weapons to their strengths.  

It is not that he cannot or is unable to do these things, it seems as if he is unwilling or fearful of failing if they don't work.  This is the hard part for us fans as this is out of the norm for Coach Harbaughs past performances.  

I truly hope he can turn these things around, as we all want Michigan to be successful.

Chuch

His first four seasons are worse than Carr, Mo, and Bo in any way you slice it, from titles to winning percentage. He was supposed to bring us back to that level. He hasn’t. It’s not irrational, especially after the hype he’s created. We aren’t competitive against good teams. He needs to make a Beilein-style adjustment after being self reflective and it’s hard to see him doing it. At this point he is what he is.  

This board is awful with the hawt takes the last couple weeks. The week before the bowl game when we found out people were sitting out and quitting on the team, the game didn’t mean anything and it was a glorified exhibition game. The day after the game, Harbaugh should be fired because of the bowl game and we should go after all those amazing national championship coaches who are everywhere you look as long as you throw 15 million a year at them. This board has been unreadable the last 2 weeks

Imagine if Hoke was unable to run a no huddle offense.  

We need a new OC. If the offense still sucks after that change is made then we're going to have to have an uncomfortable conversation.

He’s a good coach. We expected elite results and he’s getting elite pay. What we’re getting is wins vs all the teams we’re supposed to beat and no wins vs elite teams. 

I don't think being critical or posting negative comments about coaching performance after the last 2 games is irrational. 

Saying he should be fired and that is all, is irrational.   

I've read more comments like 'if he doesn't do X and continues to do Y, then we need another coach if we expect to compete in todays NCAA football.' Not an irrational comment.

And yes, yes I am the rational/irrational police.   

I have one gripe with JH - he is like a cyborg with little to no sense of personality or humor and sometimes can be way too uptight. I have worked in college athletics a number of years and I've seen coaches with similar flaws and it affects their teams in a big time negative way especially when the going gets tough. Look at all the high level coaches...Dabo wears a cowboy hat giving interviews...Urban has a sense of humor, jokes around and is very in-tune with his kids....Saban may be a maniac but at least he chokes up when he talks about some of his players. During the bowl, the announcers even mentioned how JH looked like he wanted to get in the game while Mullen was relaxed and clowning around. During the pre-game press conference, it was obvious Mullen was trying to have some fun talking about his style being sneakers and JH's style with khakis and our coach couldn't even see that it was a joke from one guy to another. Players typically always reflect the mentality of their coaches especially in pressure situations....I wonder if it's his and our achilles heel. 

Be careful what you wish for?  Is it so much to wish for one god damn win over OSU and for us to look competent against top 10 teams?

I hope you are right.  I think you are wrong.

After 4 years at LSU, Saban had won two SEC conference titles and a National Championship, and was 3-1 in postseason bowls.

After 4 years at Alabama, Saban had gotten the Tide into two SEC championship games, winning one of them and won a National Championship, going 3-1 in bowl games.

In his third year at ND, Brian Kelly got the Irish into the NC game.

In his first 4 full years as HC, Swinney got the Tigers into 3 ACC championship games, winning one, and went 2-2 in bowls.

Dantonio won a BIG title in his fourth year, albeit without having to play OSU.

Michigan has been pretty good under Harbaugh, and firing him now would be very short-sighted. However, the record in terms of actually winning any kind of championship—division, conference, or national—not to mention beating our biggest rivals, is wanting at this point.

The fact that a major college team coached by a guy whose NFL nickname was "Captain Comeback" is apparently unable to run anything approximating a hurry-up offense in year 4 is completely inexplicable. 

Do people actually think this guy is Shea Patterson? Good lord.

Keep Harbaugh. But there has to be a change on the coaching staff. No more of the coach that is unable to get the team beyond settling for field goals instead of getting TDs.

I don't care what his record is. He has Elite talent at skill positions and he needs to use it. If he's 39-14 right now he would be 41-12 had he properly used the talent at his disposal 

All.....he...needs...to...do....is...modernize....his....offense.

And tell Don Brown to play a more conservative defense

This is a cut and paste from last year, and the year before.  Save it for next year too.

I agree to an extent. Some of the criticism is absurd and honestly just goes with recency bias and will go away.

However, if this board was told 4 years ago (when Harbaugh was hired) that through 4 years he would amass a 38-14 record; 2-2 vs MSU and 0-4 vs OSU. In addition he would be 1-3 in bowls with the only win being over Florida in the Citrus Bowl in year one. Zero trips to the CFP or the B1G CG. If we were told he recruited the #1 overall recruit, had 2 years of Peppers, and had a 5 Star QB one year, we would have unanimously doubted that this is where we would be through 4 years. It’s not just the overall record, it’s the fact that now after 3 1/2 recruiting classes and one on the way and we are honestly in a worse spot than we were after 2015. This is not what we expected, and honestly with the talent we have had, we have underachieved greatly.

Aside from 2015 OSU, and 2017 Penn St, the rest of the 12 losses should be cut in half. Based on the talent we have, we should be anywhere from 44-8 to 41-11. With at a bare minimum 1 win over OSU and at least one B1G championship and at least one NY6 win.

We have none of that, and that is a problem.

Nick Saban coached in college football for 26 years before he won a National Championship. Man, what the fuck was his problem?