ND/MSU: Who do you like?

Submitted by MGlobules on

Okay, "like" might be too strong a word. But who do you want to win? I'm kinda hoping they both crap the bed en route to a Sparty squeaker, setting up our game--between two unbeatens--on the national stage.

smwilliams

September 13th, 2016 at 10:27 AM ^

My best friend is a ND fan. After last year, I want D'Angetonio to lose 7 games this year and miss a bowl. I'm pulling for ND even though they are despicable.

And, yes, go Oklahoma. An undefeated or 1 loss Michigan team is not getting left out of the playoff. So, I don't care about SOS.



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Carcajou

September 13th, 2016 at 10:55 AM ^

Sparty, especially because they are on our schedule (SOS, a chance to beat them), and ND is not.

Long term, ND and Ohio State are bigger threats to Michigan (recruiting, all-time wins, etc.) than MSU is.

Add that ND needs to be eliminated as possible competition for a playoff spot, and PERCEIVED SOS based on reputation of the conferences (B1G vs. ACC), and so I think we should probably pull for the Spartans.
 

The Buckeyes and Sooners? Hmmm, that might be another matter. Will find it almost impossible to root for Ohio State while Meyer is there. I am sure Buckeye fans will feel the same about Harbaugh sooner or later. But I think they want to make it a meaningful rivalry again. Watching the Ohio State game at a bar last year with fans from both sides, several Buckeye fans were genuinely sad that game and the series in the last decade weren't more competitive. I think they really want their hate to mean something.



 

Perkis-Size Me

September 13th, 2016 at 10:50 AM ^

ND. They actually really don't bother me all that much. Sure, I don't want to see them in the playoff, but considering that I don't think they get past Stanford, I think they're already out of it.

I'm taking ND in this game since its at home, and they're a more tested team at this point. MSU played pretty poorly against a lowly FCS team. Sure this is how they usually start out over the last few years, but it's still a bad time to be trying to get things together.

MSU's defense keeps it close, but ND pulls away with a late field goal to keep their playoff hopes alive. In the end, they're a more balanced team right now.



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Michology 101

September 13th, 2016 at 11:35 AM ^

This is the debate that always splits our Michigan fan base. So many people in our fan base pull for MSU and OSU to have great years. They feel it'll help our strength of schedule and make us look good when we beat them. Many of them really pull for OSU to be undefeated so it'll make us look good when we beat them. Though here is my question I'd like to ask. WHAT IF WE DON'T BEAT THEM?!! It is possible to lose. OSU will then just be on their way to another Big 10 and National Championship run. I want OSU's hopes of winning any kind of championship to already be over with, when it's time to play us. Therefore, even if they should happen to beat us, they still won't be celebrating any titles at the end of the season. OSU beating us and then rubbing it in our faces about how they went on to win the Big 10 and National Championship afterwards, would make it even worse. I want their dreams of winning any big prizes to already be ousted and that's why I pull for them to lose at least 3 or 4 games each year. I pretty much feel the same way about MSU. I'd rather us take our chances with the strength of schedule issue. I mean, if we take care of business, that part won't really matter. It would probably have to be an unique situation where it's DIRECTLY and unequivocally helping Michigan for me to pull for our rivals to win a game. Though I might pull for them in a game that doesn't matter at all to Michigan, like a bowl game.

gbdub

September 13th, 2016 at 12:34 PM ^

I think the calculus changes for OOC games. In conference, yeah, I hope the rivals lose every week. But scoring marquee wins outside the conference makes the Big Ten look good, and increases our chance of sneaking into the playoff as a second team from the conference if we drop a game or two somewhere.



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ST3

September 13th, 2016 at 11:42 AM ^

but let's break it down to see who I should root against more. High score wins (or loses.) i.e., whoever scores more I will root against.

I want Michigan to regain the highest all-time winning percentage. ND +3 points

I want Michigan to be the first team to 1000 wins. ND +1 point

Disrespekt. MSU +3 points

Bryan Kelly's purple face: ND +1 point

Mike Dantoni's scowl: MSU +2 points

I grew up in East Lansing and had to deal with sparties: MSU +2 points

My mom still lives in East Lansing and there are a few good sparty fans. A very few. MSU -1 point.

Notre Dame fans are for the most part reasonable people. ND -1 point.

Pride comes before the fall. I want the fall to come hard for sparty this year. MSU +3 points.

ND chickened out of the series with Michigan. ND +1 point.

I have way more FB sparty friends to deal with. MSU +1 point.

Big Ten pride, ND +1

Grand tally: MSU 10, ND 6, wow, it's a wipeout. Go Irish, I guess.

mgoblue0970

September 13th, 2016 at 5:15 PM ^

Damn... beat me to it!  

What do I like... a meteor to hit the 50 yd  line!

Seriously, I'll take ND all day long!  Both fanbases are insufferable.  The difference is, ND has been there before -- they actually have something to crow about.

Lil bro still measure success against the barometer of UM... rather than simple celebrating their own accomplishments.

DualThreat

September 13th, 2016 at 12:37 PM ^

1.  Always root against OSU.

2.  Always root against ND, unless they are playing OSU.

3.  Always root against MSU, unless they are playing OSU or ND.

Always follow these three rules.  That's it.

 

redhotjabrillpeppers

September 13th, 2016 at 2:34 PM ^

I have State starting 1-2, with back to back losses against ND and Wiscy. Think the luck runs out this year. ND is too deep offensively, and playing a home night game just gives them even more of an advantage. 35-13.

Yooper

September 13th, 2016 at 3:55 PM ^

MSU returning to mediocrity is good for Michigan.  Let's restore that part of world order before we focus on ND.  Besides, I think ND is headed for a retreat-Kelly has done a good job but I think he will jump to the NFL when he gets a chance. 

poseidon7902

September 13th, 2016 at 4:00 PM ^

I have this dread that both MSU and OSU win this weekend.  I think ND is depleated enough on D and OK is so over-rated that it's inevitable that they win.  I would love to shower in the tears of a thousand crying spartan fans though.  

Wolfman

September 13th, 2016 at 4:14 PM ^

Regardless of what Sparty does w/ND we will be ok if we carry our own water correctly the rest of the way. If not, it will be as it should. 

ND is just too talented for this bunch of Spartans though, even with the ?s on defense. The Spartans are going to have a difficult time handling this bunch of Domers. They have talent and depth all over the field, although with the time it will take their defense to completely gel, if Sparty is going to get them, it will be in a scenario such as this, early in the year. 

maizenblue87

September 13th, 2016 at 5:59 PM ^

My pyramid of hate:

1) OSU
2) MSU
3) ND

This implies I want ND to beat MSU. It wasn't always that way. There was a time when I rooted for MSU when they weren't facing UM. But the recent losses, and my better understanding of the MSU fan base (from MGoBlog) have soured me on MSU. I finally saw the light.



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emozilla

September 13th, 2016 at 6:23 PM ^

I think ND has the edge here, they played an alright game against what appears to be a formidble Texas team while Sparty was struggling with a 3-8 FCS team

uminks

September 14th, 2016 at 12:33 AM ^

But in the last  8 years sparty has moved up my list as the team I  hate most, just  hair over ND.

Teams I hate most:  1.) Sparty, 2.) ND, 3.) OSU.  It is possible that as we go back to a more normal universe, then ND may take over the number 1 spot again.