TrppWlbrnID

January 13th, 2016 at 5:38 PM ^

Sucks - conferences dos backflips stealing teams to get to 12 for a championship game the past decade. Now the NCAA just says don't sweat it, those rules don't apply anymore.




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Jon06

January 13th, 2016 at 5:39 PM ^

Boooooo. Not fair. We had to expand to get a championship game. So should they. If this happens, I hope it works out so that the wrong team wins it, causing the Big 12 to miss out on the playoff.

acnumber1

January 13th, 2016 at 7:46 PM ^

But if we didn't add 2 teams and got a championship game with ten teams The Game would at its best would have been a dress rehearsal. The Ten Year War would have had 16 Bo vs Woody games (not that I wouldn't have enjoyed that).

acnumber1

January 13th, 2016 at 7:51 PM ^

If it is always a rematch, they could host it at the home stadium of either the team that is higher in the conference standings or the team that won the first match. Either way the stadium should be full.

/didn't read article,,,the plan may be to play it at a neutral site in JerryWorld Texas.

SoDak Blues

January 14th, 2016 at 12:15 PM ^

I enjoy having Nebraska as well. My wife graduated from Nebraska, so occasionally getting to watch Michigan pummel them is tremendous (I still hear about who was the "real" NC winner in '97...ugh). 

SanDiegoWolverine

January 13th, 2016 at 5:45 PM ^

A conference should be able to hold a championship game whether it has 8 teams or 16 teams. Some other conferences added teams to get a championship game when the obvious solution would have been to lobby the NCAA or propose to the change the rule. 10 years ago the PAC10, Big10, ACC, and Big East all could have gotten together and pushed to get the rule changed. Between them and a lot of the smaller conferences I don't see how this wouldn't have passed. it's just kind of funny how this passes now that all the conference jumping chaos has already happened.

Moonlight Graham

January 13th, 2016 at 5:46 PM ^

What does the NCAA have to do with the football post-season anyway? Who were they to dictate that sort of rule? I was always confused by why they stuck their nose in there. 

I would have liked to see the Big 12 add a couple more teams just so that all P5 conferences would ahve a consistent 12 or 14 teams, not this 10-or-12-or-14 crap. Oh, and it would be good for the Big 12 to actually have 12 teams but that's not as B1G a problem. 

NittanyFan

January 13th, 2016 at 5:50 PM ^

Seems to me the need for a Championship game is when you do NOT have a round-robin.  E.g., When you have two elite teams that don't have the opportunity to play each other (because they're in some mega-conference where a round-robin is not logistically possible.  Then you let them settle it on the field.

Now, if one team goes 9-0 ...... they'd have to "re-validate" that they are Champions by beating a team they already beat!

Same thing in the case of a tie up top at 8-1.

NittanyFan

January 13th, 2016 at 5:56 PM ^

In the other conferences, it's only sometimes a rematch.  For instance: Pac-12 was this year, B1G was not.

I don't love the B1G Championship game and divisions.  Personally, I think the perfect number of teams in a conference is nine (full round-robin, each team has an equal number of conference road and home games, 4 OOC games apiece).

But even if the B1G Championship game is a re-match it's basically the only way to crown a true conference once you get to 12 (or even more!) teams.

mi93

January 13th, 2016 at 11:15 PM ^

8, 9-team conferences would make each champion a playofff entrant.  And there really aren't more than 50 schools that will likely ever make an 8-team playoff.

8-game round robin in conference, 3-4 cross-conference games within the 8 conferences, then seeding of the 8 champions.

And since MSU isn't an original conference member, they join the MAC when the 4 newbies all leave.

NittanyFan

January 13th, 2016 at 11:49 PM ^

Nice to dream about and speculate, but I don't think it could possibly work.  

Take the 64 current Power 5 teams + Notre Dame + (Houston, SMU, Rice, Cincinnati, UCF, BYU and Boise State).  The last 7 have either (a) been generally successful of late, and/or (b) are legacies from the old SWC.

(1) Old Big Ten - Minnesota

(2) Old Big Eight + Minnesota

(3) Old 10-team SEC - Vanderbilt

(4) The old 9-team SWC

(5) Old Pac-10 - Washington State

(6) The old 9-team ACC (what it was when Florida State joined)

(7) "Big East" (sort of): BC, Miami, ND, PSU, Pitt, Rutgers, South Carolina, Syracuse, WVU

(8) Unfortunately, this is where it breaks down.  "Leftover" conference: Boise State, BYU, Cincinnati, Louisville, UCF, Utah, Vanderbilt, VT, Washington State.

treetown

January 13th, 2016 at 6:31 PM ^

Yes, their conference playing a round robin actually should solve any issues because EVERY TEAM ACTUALLY PLAYED EVERY TEAM. The only way this could be made any more "fair" is to have a home and away but that would double the length of the season.

Once again the NCAA reveals that when $ comes up against sporting logic and rationality, $ will win.

LSAClassOf2000

January 13th, 2016 at 5:57 PM ^

The commissioner also noted he's unsure how the top two teams will ultimately be determined since the Big 12 doesn't have divisions.

Oh, beautiful. We could just simplify it, of course. Baylor, and then the opponent would be selected by a round of musical chairs or double-elimination Kerplunk.

NittanyFan

January 13th, 2016 at 6:06 PM ^

I know they're not at the forefront of college football --- but for those that care, this ruling really puts the screws to them.  

MWC won't need Hawaii any more for 12 and a Championship game.  So it's potentially "good bye Rainbow Warriors.  Good luck surviving as an independent at the FBS level!"

The Sun Belt doesn't currently have a Championship game, but a primary reason for inviting Coastal Carolina was to get the conference to 12.  Well, don't need 12 any more, and now they don't need Idaho or NMSU as western geographic outliers.  The MWC won't need them either.  So it's likely a demotion to FCS and the Big Sky for them.  They too can't survive as an independent at the FBS level.