NBA draft stock update from tonight
Chad Ford just updated his board. Stauskas is the only Michigan player making an appearance.
He's at #16, but then there's this blurb about him: "We may have been premature in putting him so high in the rankings. Lots of scouts have cooled off a bit the past few weeks."
Main takeaway here is that the chances GR3 or Mitch sneaks into the first round are miniscule and unlikely to rise, unless Glenn goes crazy very soon. Nik is in the iffy territory of mid/late first that offers few guarantees.
February 12th, 2014 at 4:03 AM ^
lol. most overrated player in ages.
February 12th, 2014 at 10:09 AM ^
MSU loses a ton. Next year will remind me of the 2007 and 2011 teams.
February 12th, 2014 at 1:20 AM ^
comes back next year we could be just as good. It would be awesome to be legit B1G contenders for 4 straight seasons. I can't remember the last time the football team could say that.
February 12th, 2014 at 4:10 AM ^
93 grad and you can't remember. i guess you went overseas after you graduated.
February 12th, 2014 at 11:20 AM ^
It would be awesome to be legit B1G contenders for 4 straight seasons. I can't remember the last time the football team could say that.
How about every year from 1997 to 2004? Five titles in eight years and we finished 2nd or 3rd the other three times.
February 12th, 2014 at 1:56 AM ^
that he didnt leave last year. His stock is dropping and the longer he stays and doesn't turn "potential" into production, the more he'll be hurt. It's looking more and more like our better lineup is with Irvin in the game ahead of Robinson. He just has not improved his outside shot and seems to be more passive than ever. Really hope he turns it around not just for the team but himself.
February 12th, 2014 at 2:07 AM ^
Feel bad for Mitch. He just got incredibly unlucky with an injury. GR3 gambled on his skillset and lost. That's unfortunate, but nothing like Mitch's situation.
February 12th, 2014 at 2:12 AM ^
GR3's season isn't over yet. Would not be surprised at all to see him finish it strong.
February 12th, 2014 at 4:11 AM ^
but i see nothing in his game to say he improves much.
February 12th, 2014 at 6:35 AM ^
I know that's not really your point, but to say he won't improve is opinion. Fact is there's lots of room for improvement and a coaching staff that can help that happen.
February 12th, 2014 at 6:42 AM ^
GRIII's problem is between the ears. He doesn't play hard and doesn't seem to be doing the things he needs to do to get better. He's soft.
February 12th, 2014 at 8:53 AM ^
You go 2-9 does not mean your soft. He definitely needs a more attacking mindset though to complement his skill set. The nba does not need a finesse player with his physique, size and game. He is explosive without the always on attitude to utilize his explosiveness. I would say he needs to be a bigger terror on d too if his offense is going to plateau where it's st. Otherwise, I am thinking second rounder. Still a big fan.
February 12th, 2014 at 11:39 AM ^
So, in other words....
February 12th, 2014 at 2:16 AM ^
Nik is the best bet to leave. All the "experts" have him in that 14-18 range even with that bad stretch.
February 12th, 2014 at 3:15 AM ^
If no one leaves for the NBA id be ecstatic. But I expect that at least 1 will leave.
February 12th, 2014 at 4:13 AM ^
i could see all three saying let's get this thing in 2015. although, i think we can make a run here in 2014.
February 12th, 2014 at 5:15 AM ^
Who would draft Robinson in reality? He is not ready. I won't put him down or even go into detail. It will be a blow if any of our three go that could.
February 12th, 2014 at 4:21 AM ^
None of these kids are ready for the league. Stauskas needs another year period point blank. He lacks quickness and is a horrid defender. He also tends to have trouble breaking free of ball denial and becomes passive when the defense ratchets up.
Glenn....is simply NOT ready. Streaky scorer with limited dribble drive. Plays passionless through stretches still and doesn't seem to have a well rounded enough game to go pro quite yet.
McGary has not done anything this season and is a massive draft risk. McGary played well in the NCAA tourney and that was about it.
Why give up a degree and your Junior year and a chance to be a National Title team to enter a loaded draft in which none of the above are lottery picks. This is all silly and premature.
February 12th, 2014 at 5:54 AM ^
if all of them come back cant they just redshirt one of doyle or wilson and medically redshirt hatch, then let chatman and doyle or wilson start next year leaving the class at 12, isnt that plausible just wondering not sure how basketball goes
February 12th, 2014 at 8:28 AM ^
on scholarship limits. Further, redshirts are only official after a season. Annoucng that a player is expected to redshirt does not preclude you from playing him if the need arises. See Caris LaVert last season.
February 12th, 2014 at 5:51 AM ^
You people are crazy saying they should go bc we don't have room. You make room for them it's that easy. The same people crying about Trey leaving to early are saying well they should go bc there stock will never go up even if they stay is the dumbest thing I've heard on here. Can you imagine our team next year if everyone came back?? It's championship or bust baby.
February 12th, 2014 at 5:56 AM ^
How could you say he won't improve?? We all thought this yr would be GRllls year but it's been Nik's come out party... keep playing 2k bc your hoop knowledge is terrible.
February 12th, 2014 at 7:27 AM ^
It's like McGary last year. IIRC he wasn't even in the discussion to go pro last year if it wasn't for his sensational play in the tournament. . .
February 12th, 2014 at 10:03 AM ^
It was exciting seeing him get so much attention out of nowhere during the tournament.
February 12th, 2014 at 8:07 AM ^
I know that sounds weird and it would be awesome to have them back, but we need to think about the legitimacy of the word of this staff. Obviously we don't know what the staff said behind closed doors, but GR3 and MM were mid first round picks last year and they came back. That could very easily be perceived as the coaching staff not having the best interests of their players on their mind.
Obviously there is a mountain of data to say otherwise, but the reality is that GR3 and MM were legitimately our best prospects of the last decade. They should have had much better shots of going to the NBA, and had that opportunity last year, for this staff to be considered true savants of developing talent.
Granted much of this is moot because I have come to trust this staff more than is reasonably possible. We know the team will improve, will bounce back, and will ALWAYS find talent no matter the ranking. It would just be lovely to take that next step of not having to have a convergence of luck and talent to be a truly elite team (though you could also easily argue that we are at that stage now).
Well, apparently I have no point. I just hope for GR3 and MM that they get drafted high this year or some year because they are good players and I can only hope they get what's best for them.
February 12th, 2014 at 8:47 AM ^
Is no longer the prospect you think he is. I hope he turns it around but he is not an nba player right now and the scoutniks are starting to see it. I am just hoping he gets to being a dominant d1 player. He can do it but it's not even close right now. I would say Irving 's scoring ability might have his projections exceed Robinson 's if current trends hold. Great kid.
On mm, I think he would clearly be drafted but that might not individually be a good biz decision for him. I'd take a policy out if I were him (hope he did already) and show I could get through another season to see if I could get in top of first round in weaker class next year. That said he is a bit older so it may behoove him to go late first round this year.
February 12th, 2014 at 9:07 AM ^
GRIII has a father who played very well in the NBA. It's not like he doesn't have someone to turn to for advice.
The coaches didn't throw a banana on the court to hurt him. He had a history with his back. He knew the risks and he gambled that he would come back and have a great year. Hopefully he can come back and show that.
Regardless, I hope someone does leave from the standpoint that if someone plays well down the stretch and in the tournaments to dramatically upgrade their status, it probably means we are competing for titles. If not we should have a great team next year.
February 12th, 2014 at 9:42 AM ^
Neither one of them particularly heralded recruits. I don't think you can really question Beilein's NBA player development at this point.
February 12th, 2014 at 9:38 AM ^
I don't know if I but that. Tom Izzo rarely puts out top line NBA prospects but he still gets 5 star recruits and has great teams. It's nice to send players to the NBA, but not necessary
February 12th, 2014 at 9:38 AM ^
Supposed to be a reply to Vblueball8
February 12th, 2014 at 9:59 AM ^
He has failed to land elite players the last two years. Recruits may be realizing it's not the place to go if you want to be in the NBA in a couple years.
February 12th, 2014 at 11:35 AM ^
for about 9-10 guys who actually play in a given season?
February 12th, 2014 at 11:53 AM ^
We need Mitch to stay one more year
February 12th, 2014 at 2:02 PM ^
I looks like we have a pretty good problem. Lots of talent for next year and (maybe) one tough decision.
Prefer our position rather than something like KY when your freshman are gone after one year.