Mudbowl - Is this still a thing?

Submitted by Cock D on October 20th, 2016 at 10:57 PM

If so - anyone know when it starts on Saturday?



October 20th, 2016 at 11:29 PM ^

SAE is gone but I walked by that house today and there was a mudbowl practice going on. Saw some good cuts, and a lot of scrambles that broke contain. Not sure when theyll actually play though.

Chuck Norris

October 21st, 2016 at 12:29 AM ^

Current member of a fraternity on campus so hopefully I can shed some light. SAE went rogue last year and finally lost their house, but the property is still owned by their alumni. A new sororoity (AOPi) is leasing the house starting next year, but since the property isn't owned by them mudbowl will continue. Before, fraternities competed in preliminary games for the chance to play SAE on homecoming, but now there's a mudbowl "committee" (with a few former SAE's and some current greek life people) and all of the frats involved are just competing with each other and the best two will play on homecoming. It seemed a little disorganized this year but hopefully it will get better.

Clarence Beeks

October 21st, 2016 at 12:54 AM ^

So basically it's now an event sponsored and held by a private group of alumni (and friends), rather than either an SAE or Greek Life event, for the benefit of charity.  That frankly sounds like a win-win, and one the university (and the national fraternity) is probably going to be pretty tweaked off about since they'll have literally no control over it whatsoever now (privately owned property, privately run event).  Would love to see the reaction in IFC when they realized that...


October 21st, 2016 at 2:35 PM ^

The Tradition for many many years before both Phi Delt and SAE had some issues was that they would play each other every year.  It was a huge deal for both houses.  That changed when Phi Delt got the boot in the mid-90s.  I was sad to see it go, I played in the game twice for PDT, it was something we really looked forward to every year.

Bummer it took 20 posts before OP got an answer to his question, do we always have to wallow in fraternity hate every time something vaguelly related to them comes up? 

Have to say I am quite saddened by all the folks who hate fraternities simply for the sake of hating fraternities.  If you lump them all together and simply point out all the negatives you are being just as closed minded as the folks most of you seem to dislike so much.


The Fertile Oc…

October 21st, 2016 at 4:24 PM ^



And further to that point, many of the individual members of these defunct fraternities are unfairly grouped with those members who are most responsible for digracing the entire organization. I knew plenty of guys in SAE who were legitimately good people and weren't involved in the shit that brought about the house's demise. I'm sure the same can be said for the many other houses that have been kicked off campus and/or had their charter pulled by nationals.



I dumped the Dope

October 21st, 2016 at 4:27 AM ^

I cant say what a corner lot goes for at South U and Washtenaw these days, but it can't be insignificant!!  Perhaps its value is diminished by being in a yearly floodplain (ack ack ack).

I spent several years cleaning up dishes at KATheta (long) before it too was overtaken by the Dark Side.


October 21st, 2016 at 7:00 AM ^

Even going back to my time at Michigan, I have wondered about the value of that corner. In my work life, I've had the experience of dealing with several people who manage and develop properties in the area who always talk about maybe looking into buying it too, but clearly that never gets very far. 

Clarence Beeks

October 21st, 2016 at 7:55 AM ^

Obviously it's never going to happen (it rarely does anywhere - primarily because, when dealing with long standing chapters, universities are generally not principled enough to stand firm on "permanent" closures because it will shut off the Development dollars spigot from a substantial group (in both size and, usually, financial potential) of donor prospects, not to mention the unwillingness of the alumni ownership groups to sell (since it means, literally, permanent closure, as the house itself is typically the single most important tangible enduring aspect of a fraternity or sorority)), but it always sure is fun to speculate! These are almost always among the very most valuable properties near universities of all size with very old chapters because the universities grow and expand out around them creating little (exceptionally valuable) islands of private property.

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