maize-blue

October 22nd, 2018 at 6:51 PM ^

To hell with their coach, athletic dept., board of trustees, and whoever else.

I don't really care if UM was on the field at the wrong time by a few minutes. To hell with MSU. Suck it.

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Khaleke The Freak

October 22nd, 2018 at 6:56 PM ^

These Spartan beat writers are the biggest bunch of homers I’ve ever seen...doing the dirty work for the program, calling out Michigan players on twitter and the radio and now this...

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wildbackdunesman

October 22nd, 2018 at 7:10 PM ^

Our players and staff say they weren't asked to leave.  MSU says they were.

MSU showed up late after 10 AM and expected to walk through players.

Our players say MSU on more than one occasion tried to injure our players on purpose during the game.  MSU fans generally don't care about it.

Our players claim MSU ran their mouths non-stop via private social media before the game.  Our players certainly ran their mouth after the game publicly. 

MSU fans are traumatized by Bush harming a few blades of grass, but dont mind their fans talking of iinjuring him prior to kickoff.  And celebrating on the middle of their field after the game as if they didn't do that to us.

I am tired of all the side show.

Focus on Penn State.

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Section 1.8

October 22nd, 2018 at 7:41 PM ^

Is that a fact?  Have Bush and the others indicated that no one told them they needed to get off the field?  I am vaguely aware that Dave Ablauf indicated something to that effect, but I am not sure...  

Frankly, it really is amazing to me that no one was intervening way before the opposing players were within arms' length of each other.  MSU coaches holding things up before starting; Michigan coaches/staff dragging Michigan players away from impending trouble.

After the line of MSU players passed Lavert Hill (and ripped off his headphones), and Lavert had turned on them and was yelling, the video shows somebody (looks like Partridge perhaps) from the Michigan staff running out to intervene with Hill.

It's really surprising and fortunate that this didn't turn into a major fight.  Bad for us, if the net result had been that Devin Bush and Lavert Hill were peremptorily ejected from the game, along with 4 to 6 no-name Sparty dipshits.  That's like losing a Queen and a Bishop to your opponent's four Pawns in chess.

 

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Arb lover

October 22nd, 2018 at 8:50 PM ^

This raises a good point from the evidence we have. The videos of the altercation clearly show the united front of mask wearing football players with the coaches pushing them forward. 

If, as MSU says, they were trying to get Michigan players off of the field and out of the way, the video which shows the entire field for the 30 seconds prior to the "collision", would have shown at least one coach or trainer run up to any of our guys at mid field to try to do such thing. However the evidence is clear, from the start (look at the full length video) of MSU's march from the sideline, nobody even approached our guys.

Did someone mosey over to a busy trainer trying to set up and say hey can your guys get off the field, or to a coach and say hey can we do our walk now? I couldn't care less if they did, but it obviously had nothing to do with the players on the field or their right to be there, and absent any agreement from our coach- a fact not in dispute, they had no right to proceed. 

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Section 1.8

October 22nd, 2018 at 10:54 PM ^

I don't think anybody has mentioned it yet; but Dantonio was walking behind the line in the center of the field.  Other MSU coaches were in the line, linking arms with their players.  None of the MSU coaches or staff were in advance of the line, imploring Michigan players to vacate the field until the "Walk" line passed.  There are lots of still photos, beyond the Chris Solari-Tweeted video.  The stills show it clearly.

The MSU coaches were, beyond any doubt, part of the general confrontation.  Is this Mike Tressel in the photo accompanying this Freep story?  I think it is.  It is unquestionably a coach or a member of the staff.

 

 

 

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M_Born M_Believer

October 22nd, 2018 at 11:46 PM ^

You nailed it here 1.8.  THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT JH is referring to.  Mork invited this confrontation, egged it on and did nothing to try and prevent it.  That's why he is calling it Bush League, that's why JH is pissed and that is why he won't let it go.....

And to everyone else, spare me with the BS of, they asked us to move.  That would go over like a wet fart in church.....

It was funny tonight on BTN Football & Beyond.  Dave Wannstedt laughed about this saying this is nothing compared to the stuff that went on in Miami / FSU games and I would attend to agree....

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Dayton Blue

October 22nd, 2018 at 7:17 PM ^

I think they should do an ALL OUT investigation like when JT Barrett got hurt on the big house sideline last year. 

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Salinger

October 22nd, 2018 at 7:20 PM ^

5 eye roles out of 5, Jim.

 

Who gives a shit? They lost and are clinging to a shambles of relevance by perpetuating this nonsense lie. They wanted to try and intimidate our guys. OWN IT! 

 

I guess asking them to apologize is about on the same level as them wanting an apology for us staking their field. Except we did apologize... Okay my theory is falling apart. 

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slimj091

October 22nd, 2018 at 7:28 PM ^

So plan your pre-game rituals that take up the entire field well before the scheduled warm up time? Why schedule your stupid ass walk at the same exact time that warm ups were scheduled? Why blame the opposing team's players for your own coaching staffs bad time management?

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CompleteLunacy

October 22nd, 2018 at 7:29 PM ^

10:02 is after 10am. That's how time works. That's how numbers work. If you showed up at 9:59 and were still walking across the field at 10am, I sincerely doubt anything happens. The moment that clock hits 10:00 and M players hit the field, and you haven't started your walk, you are late. Everything that happens after that is at least partially your fault for not preventing. Because it is not your field at that moment. I don't care that you do it before every game. Do that on your own damn time. Don't show up late and expect your arch-nemesis to just politely step aside when it's their time. Michigan is done being polite with your trash program. 

Bush league confirmed.

EDIT: In the spirit of Sam Webb, congrats again for poking the bear, MSU. You ain't the bear no more in this rivalry...on paper it's even but anyone with eyes knows that those 2 losses are a mirage. Jim Harbaugh has your number, and you have given them more ammunition to beat your butts again next year in the Big House. Not that they need it but...uh, clearly it didn't help you guys two days ago to piss Michigan off like that. 

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NFG

October 22nd, 2018 at 7:31 PM ^

I wish that school put as much effort and detail into all the sexual assault cases that have been brought against their entire fucking athletic department. Fucking clowns. The epitome of the shit stain on America’s underwear. 

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Wendyk5

October 22nd, 2018 at 7:32 PM ^

Dantonio got caught in a lie hence the doubling down. If you have kids, you've seen this tactic many times. 

 

Double post - Too bad the new MGoBlog doesn't have a delete function when this happens. 

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UMForLife

October 22nd, 2018 at 7:36 PM ^

You were late. You asked to move and the player said no. So move on and do your stupid hand holding in your own side. You have been a whiner and asshole for so long and you want M to be nice now?

So you did it anyway and your coach was laughing about. THE MAN called you out and now you are whining? GTFO. 

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Section 1.8

October 22nd, 2018 at 9:13 PM ^

"You asked to move and the player said no..."

I'm not sure that it matters, but there are conflicting reports about whether anyone even asked our guys to vacate the field for a few minutes for The Walk.  It may be that no one even asked...

 

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Eng1980

October 22nd, 2018 at 7:46 PM ^

As a COURTESY, MSU was willing to honor their agreement to let Michigan warm-up at the agreed upon (league standard?) time?  As a COURTESY?  It  would be inappropriate to not allow them access that everyone expects every time.  I don't see how anyone can accept that nonsense.

Hey everyone, I got a new idea, how about a warm-up before the game.  Oh, wait, we don't want you to have the standard warm-up.

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Bando Calrissian

October 22nd, 2018 at 7:53 PM ^

Yeah, these things aren't "courtesy." You know the reason why college bands get jerked around with field time for pregame and halftime shows these days? It's because there are NCAA-mandated times, down to the minute, that dictate when and where teams can be on the field. 

Michigan had every right to be on their side of the field at 10AM. MSU doesn't have a right to sweep all 100 yards like they're picking up trash for their community service. Don't like it? Reinvent your stupid tradition.

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Craptain Crunch

October 22nd, 2018 at 9:30 PM ^

The asshats at MSU can try to explain this away as much as they want but one thing remains a fact that they can not explain away as much as they might want to.

 

AND THAT IS MSU HAD THEIR ASSES HANDED TO THEM ON THE FOOTBALL FIELD ON SATURDAY BY THE MEEEEEECHIGAN WOLVERINES. 

All one can hope is that Michigan remembers this next year and trounces MSU even harder in A2. I say light them up. Go for two when Michigan is up by 40 points. Make minced meat out of Sparty. 

I'm so worked up that I now have to take a dump. I wish I had some MSU toilet paper 

 

 

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remdog

October 23rd, 2018 at 12:22 AM ^

Michigan players were on the field warming up AT THE TIME AGREED ON beforehand.  If they decide not to leave the field, it is not appropriate for MSU to stage a walk through causing a confrontation or altercation.  This could have caused an even uglier incident and is a major infraction.  The NCAA and/or Big Ten should levy sanctions against MSU, maybe at least a one game suspension of Dantonio without pay.  MSU should act preemptively.  Unfortunately, none of these organizations have any principles or backbone so this will not happen.

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Carcajou

October 23rd, 2018 at 1:37 AM ^

I only saw the longer video once, but after the Spartans left the endzone somewhere around the 10 or 20 yardline, they walked around several people (MSU or stadium officials?). Then when they reached midfield, they changed tactics (no doubt because there were a few Michigan players warming up) and decided keep arms locked, rather than going around.

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