MI Expat NY

March 14th, 2017 at 12:10 PM ^

Would think that no matter what happens in the criminal matter, the school will be likely to punish given the lower burden of proof and everything else that has gone on at MSU.


March 14th, 2017 at 12:30 PM ^

Precisely. The Title IX investigation by the university is independent of any criminal investigation and is a completely different ballgame when it comes to burden of proof.

Furthermore, from my understanding, this incident had elements similar to, although with greater severity than, what LTT was removed from the Michigan football team for.


March 14th, 2017 at 12:20 PM ^

Is it odd that the prosecutor is relying on an investigation by the Michigan State police as opposed to the East Lansing police? Are they one and the same? 


March 14th, 2017 at 1:48 PM ^

Correct, they aren't the state police per se, but I thought that - like the police on Michigan's campus, as I recall - they essentially have MSP-esque powers even if their coverage is a relatively small area like campus. I could be wrong, but that was always my understanding of campus police in the state of Michigan in most places. 

The Krusty Kra…

March 14th, 2017 at 2:35 PM ^

Are also handling the Nassar investigation. Now, maybe seeing schools like Baylor, and the horrible effort of an investigation into Minnesota Football are giving me tinted glasses, but the hesitation of MSU not being willing to outsource these investigations to the Michigan State Police, whose HQ is literally down the street in Dimondale, is baffling to me. I'm not saying MSU PD is incapable of performing an investigation, but at the end of the day, Michigan State University writes their checks, their budget, everything. This screams conflict of interest, but again, I am not a legal or police expert. 

Come On Down

March 14th, 2017 at 5:09 PM ^

I would be surprised if MSU had any say over which police force had jurisdiction to investigate this matter. My understanding from presentations given by Michigan's campus police force is that the university does not create or control the force. Instead, it's a division of the state police with jurisdiction over the campus. 


March 14th, 2017 at 3:50 PM ^

Why would the Ingham County prosecutor's office care about notifying the public of the charges during the NCAA tounament? They are completely unrelated.

I doubt they care in the slightest about the timing of the charges and getting it lost in some sort of news cycle.


March 14th, 2017 at 12:36 PM ^

If Mark Hollis has any sway in the outcome of these investigations I predict that Spartans will be forgiven for doing bad things and for some reason Wisconsin players will be punished.


March 14th, 2017 at 2:04 PM ^

I fully expect this to be a "nothing to see here. Move along" type situation. Especially with sparty patrol on the case. Also, there will be a heartwarming story involving one of the players that will land in the national media's lap invoking significant sympathy.


March 14th, 2017 at 3:47 PM ^

This week?

As a defense attorney, I'd be surprised if it was only a week. The prosecutor's office is going to proceed carefully on this because it's high profile and the charges are of a sensitive nature.

They'll be very thorough. Sometimes I've seen a case get sent back for more investigation if it's needed before filing something. I'd say several weeks. 


March 14th, 2017 at 4:53 PM ^

MSU police tried getting warrants on the 3 individuals . Prosecutor wants a little more evidence and the waiting on some lab results and evidence to be processed. Once that is given warrants should be issues