MSU Game Last Second Rule Question

Submitted by JohnnyV123 on

Saw nothing about this and sorry if it's somewhere in the snowflakes threads but I was wondering about the onsides kick at the end of the MSU game.

Basic question is....since there was only one second left on the clock did UM even have to put anyone out there to try and grab the kick? I thought at least one second had to run off the clock if anyone touched the ball so if MSU recovered it with no Michigan people trying to grab it game over anyways.

I also thought you could not advance the ball so if MSU recovered it anywhere except the endzone it would not have mattered.....and I guess follow up can you score a TD on an "onsides" kickoff that you recover in the opposing team's endzone? Could we have put only Peppers and Lewis on the field to down it  in case it got that far and end the game?

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Great Cornholio

October 31st, 2016 at 12:26 PM ^

From a strict rules perspective, there is no such thing as an "onside kick." It's an artificial construct that implies the intent of the kicking team to recover the kick. Even if the kicking team booted it deep, if its primary intent (which is subjective outside of their own claims to that effect) was to recover the kick, you could call it an onside kick. Short distance in the air and overloaded kicking formation don't define an onside kick; they're just common characteristics of one. Rules-wise, a free kick that goes at least 10 yards is the same as any other free kick that goes at least 10 yards. To the snarky asshole preparing cliched response, yes, I am fun at parties, so please do bet on it.

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Formerly Yoda

October 31st, 2016 at 12:31 PM ^

all i know is that was the longest game of my life. something needs to be done about the commercials.

kickoff, commercial
guy goes down, commercial,
call challenged on field, commercial
call stands, punt, commercial


so choppy, hard to get in the flow



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Perkis-Size Me

October 31st, 2016 at 1:29 PM ^

That was infuriating with how many commercials and game delays there were. I had to sit down and apologize to my fiancee for all the pacing and swearing I did that day, although she was a really good sport about it. She just wanted the TV back so she could flip to the Georgia-Florida game. 

It really at times felt like the universe was trying to hold off letting us claim victory for as long as humanly possible. 

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Walkinman

October 31st, 2016 at 12:49 PM ^

You can do "Victory Formation" and then have your star player do a Backflip in front of the Sparty faithful at their place.  Glad there was no more drama than that.

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thespacepope

October 31st, 2016 at 2:06 PM ^

So what this thread boils down to is that Mart cost MSU the football game by going for 2. This is the timeline of events in the real world, not in your made up MGoBlog world: 0:01 MSU kicks a PAT, MSU 24 - UM 30 0:01 MSU recovers the kickoff 0:00 the cheating referees finally call UM for pass interference (thanks Delaney),targeting and unsportsmanlike like conduct on the same play (all against that SOB Peppers cuz he bad at futballz) 0:00 MSU scores on a flawless hail Spartan Bob, MSU 30 - UM 30 0:00 MSU kicks a PAT, game over! suck it! Wolverines!

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