MSU faculty: 61 - 4 Vote of No Confidence on board of trustees

Submitted by StephenRKass on February 13th, 2018 at 6:02 PM

MSU faculty held a formal vote of no confidence on the Board of Trustees. The vote was clear: 61 - 4. This was partially precipitated by the Board appointing Engler, rather than someone with real and impartial academic bona fides.

My observation is that despite Engler and some alumni and fan and student elements supporting Dantonio and Izzo, there is a large amount of anger over the whole issue. I really don't think this is going to go away and be swept under the rug.

ESPN LINK: http://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/22424667/michigan-state-faculty-delivers-no-confidence-vote-board-trustees

FREEP LINK: https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/2018/02/13/msu-faculty-votes-no-confidence-board-trustees/334155002/

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darkstar

February 13th, 2018 at 6:20 PM ^

other political issues. Take your pick. Staee has dropped from the collective attention span.

I was with you on Dantonio & Izzo getting booted - I'll believe it when I see it. Unless there is something ridiculously incriminating they're not going anywhere. Gnashing of teeth and impotent protests aren't going to do anything.

Congrats to the faculty though. Kinda feels like some half-ass country's legislative body voting no confidence on a dictator. Like Putin. Not going to change anything.

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Hotel Putingrad

February 13th, 2018 at 6:27 PM ^

do what now?

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February 13th, 2018 at 6:45 PM ^

In Putin's Russia, Votes of No Confidence Take You!

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Mmmm Hmmm

February 13th, 2018 at 6:23 PM ^

I don’t live in Michigan or read any of the state’s main newspapers so I will take your word for them not covering the issue. But those 100 lawsuits are not going away. Once the motions to dismiss are denied, expect more attention as discovery unfolds.
Also: many may settle but there is no way all 100 settle or are dismissed. All it takes is one.

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DelhiWolverine

February 13th, 2018 at 6:11 PM ^

At this point they all deserve to go. One huge train wreck of bad decisions.

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UMxWolverines

February 13th, 2018 at 6:18 PM ^

We're only at the beginning of this stuff. Plenty of time between now and football for more stuff to come out.

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JTrain

February 13th, 2018 at 6:19 PM ^

Can someone with some legal background tell me what this means?? If anything? Is it basically a “public opinion” vote? Is the university forced to make a change. A change not involving cronyism? Or does sharty just keep throwing cold wet blankets on the tire fire?

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February 13th, 2018 at 6:22 PM ^

I'm not a lawyer, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, but it's very Macbethian -- (words) full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

The trustees are elected by the people; they don't report to the faculty. It's as meaningful as a Vote of No Confidence by the Michigan DNR would be regarding the Governor. I mean, it's hardly a good thing for them, but nobody's losing a paycheck.

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UMProud

February 13th, 2018 at 6:30 PM ^

They will ignore it and in a few days it means nothing

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turtleboy

February 13th, 2018 at 6:32 PM ^

The longer this drags out the more I lose hope of Dantonio and Izzo being ousted. They certainly deserve to be fired, but the longer the process takes, the likelier I think it is that those 2 crime enabling pieces of shit get to stick around.

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MGoFunkadelic

February 13th, 2018 at 6:33 PM ^

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VAWolverine

February 13th, 2018 at 6:35 PM ^

will not survive an incoming President and Athletic Director.

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February 13th, 2018 at 6:53 PM ^

Yes they will. Sorry, the only place people believe that is on this board.

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BoCanHam15

February 13th, 2018 at 7:39 PM ^

I know since you’re co-signing you wouldn’t understand!

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redhed

February 13th, 2018 at 6:58 PM ^

If I were a parent of a daughter at MSU, I would want Dantonio gone for bringing Robertson the rapist on campus. He was twice charged with sexual assault, yet was wandering around with the girls on campus just because he can rush the QB on a Saturday afternoon. I hate Izzo like poison, but really need to see some proof that he was involved in wrongdoing. Unless I am missing something, at this point it is nothing more than hearsay or speculation. Prosecutors and attorneys are saying they have never spoken to him, and probably risking their reputations and careers if those are lies.

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umchicago

February 13th, 2018 at 8:19 PM ^

well, except for the fact there is video evidence of a player basically saying he was involved in a gang rape and yet no repercussions whatsoever. i'm still waiting for the details on the other alleged gang rape a few months earlier involving the assistant coach. again, without repercussions. those details will hopefully surface soon.

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Njia

February 13th, 2018 at 9:04 PM ^

A doctor, just sent his daughter to MSU. His son plays football for U-M. That’s what tells me, more than anything else, that nothing will change.

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UMProud

February 13th, 2018 at 7:00 PM ^

Nobody will kill the 2 golden gooses with 100 or more lawsuits pending...football and bball revenue will be needed to pay settlements unless they use strict fund accounting

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bogeywon

February 13th, 2018 at 7:02 PM ^

Izzo and dantonio aren’t getting fired so just stop.

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umchicago

February 13th, 2018 at 8:21 PM ^

but i would wager izzo retires after this season. and if it gets too hot this summer, dantonio will resign before game 1 in the fall. both will "resign" before ever getting fired.

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esanch

February 15th, 2018 at 6:45 AM ^

That isnt going to happen either

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The Mad Hatter

February 13th, 2018 at 8:11 PM ^

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Leonhall

February 13th, 2018 at 7:28 PM ^

Will go away, already has faded some. Dantonio and Izzo aren’t going anywhere

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StephenRKass

February 13th, 2018 at 7:38 PM ^

A constant drip drip drip will hurt MSU a lot more than the hammer coming down immediately. It really is better that Michigan not pile on. Let the thing run its course.

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The Fugitive

February 13th, 2018 at 7:55 PM ^

I'll give $20 of beveled guilt if either Izzo or Dantonio are fired/resign after their most recent season. I don't see it happening.

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HenneGivenSunday

February 13th, 2018 at 8:30 PM ^

... they aren’t really getting the heat anymore

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Wolverine91

February 13th, 2018 at 8:11 PM ^

I don't think izzo and dantonio are going anywhere. There's not enough heat on them, especially dantonio.

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MichBlueEagle

February 13th, 2018 at 8:20 PM ^

http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2018/02/msu_defends_re…

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Bando Calrissian

February 13th, 2018 at 9:45 PM ^

The faculty are correct here. University presidents are more than slap-dash problem-solvers culled from public-profile alumni. Engler has no institutional memory at Michigan State. He has no demonstrative qualifications to be a university president. The faculty were right to instinctively believe that there's no reason to expect a qualified interim couldn't have been brought out of the faculty until a permanent president could be found. And that's before you even take into account the extenuating circumstances of why this happened in the first place.

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Magnum P.I.

February 13th, 2018 at 11:10 PM ^

A faculty vote of no-confidence in the BoT or president means absolutely nothing. Doesn't even make headlines anymore in most cases.

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ReverendBlueJeans

February 13th, 2018 at 11:15 PM ^

It already has been swept under the rug. Unless you live in Michigan, no one is talking about it anymore. Initially I thought both coaches would be gone but the longer they survive, the more me thinks Izzo and Dantonio aren't going anywhere. Weather the initial storm long enough and something else will come up to refocus everyone's rage.

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You Only Live Twice

February 14th, 2018 at 12:02 AM ^

There's too many victims out there, victims' families, attorneys.... maybe the initial storm will subside maybe it already has... the steady drip drip, as alluded to above, is here for the long haul.

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You Only Live Twice

February 14th, 2018 at 12:15 AM ^

https://www.freep.com/story/news/2018/02/11/msu-abuse-scandal-reporting…

Strampel stripped of his tenure, https://www.freep.com/story/news/2018/02/11/msu-abuse-scandal-reporting…; Cannot insulate MSU as the employer for every leadership wrongdoing. Engler is trying, though.

Pleading assault cases down to littering is the norm in EL (that's the unintentional message anyway)

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2018…

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Ty Butterfield

February 14th, 2018 at 3:00 PM ^

Will do the same as others above. Will donate $20 if one is done before the fall season of 2018 and $40 if both are gone before then.

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