WhoopinStick

March 9th, 2017 at 4:49 PM ^

The reports about the plane crash yesterday stated that the basketball pep band was on the same plane as the team.   I noticed that there was a Michigan Pep Band at the game today.  I would assume that their instruments would have been in the cargo hold along with the player's uniforms.  Anyone have any information on the band that played today?  Was it the regular Pep Band, and if so, how did they get their instruments?

I wasn't able to watch the first half of today's game, but did see the second half of the game - but without sound - so, sorry if this was mentioned during the telecast.

MGOTokyo

March 10th, 2017 at 2:40 AM ^

DirtyD is correct. Pilot error possible. Many other planes took off successfully around that time. Also, very little ability to maneuver out of your straight path to 'save lives '. But, we don't know, have to await the FAA report, will take many months.

Ray

March 10th, 2017 at 7:31 PM ^

But when I saw the Ypsi METAR posted at PPRune after the accident I was wondering about departing in 35 knots w/ gusts to 50-55. Dunno, maybe that's a piece of cake for an MD80 (or derivative)--esp with a pretty favorable 270 x-wind runway YIP has.

Guess we'll have to wait for the NTSB to figure it out.

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TheDirtyD

March 9th, 2017 at 3:35 PM ^

But if they rejected after V1 or right around it, than they messed up and caused an incident. A reject above 80kts is dangerous, rejecting near V1 is usually an awful idea. I anxiously await the NTSB findings. No one else flying a plane that day including Delta with their heavier and larger MD-88's and 90's had issues with the wind and they have more of a crosswind than the team did.

Tacopants

March 9th, 2017 at 4:04 PM ^

An MD guy told me that with at V1 their ASD would have been around 1500 ft with braking action alone. Since it looks like the reversers are deployed in the pictures it really does raise the question of just what the hell happened to have made the stopping distance something like 4K feet after V1 was achieved.

AdamBomb

March 9th, 2017 at 2:58 PM ^

Cheers to Beilein! He takes the slogan, "Leaders and best", to heart.

 

I'm hoping they'll wear the practice jerseys again tomorrow. Who's the white collar team now, Illinois (both of them)?!?

AdamBomb

March 9th, 2017 at 3:41 PM ^

Correct me if I'm wrong (I was watching in a small window at work), but there were no names on the jerseys, it had "Michigan Basketball" with their number on the front, and just the number on the back. They all had various shoes on, too, a couple guys had the pink shoes from the Indiana beatdown, and some had the new Jordan XXXI's. Some of the guys had tights/leggings on underneath their shorts, and Chatman had some throwback, real short shorts on. 

yossarians tree

March 9th, 2017 at 2:58 PM ^

Holy shit our whole community just ducked what might have been a huge tragedy! It really hits home. Of course we fear any plane mishap, but this has long been a particular fear of mine knowing how much these athletes travel, and the fact that whole teams/organizations travel together. The kids played great today and hopefully they can keep it up, but my guess is at some point each one of them is going to have to process this in their own way and it could be difficult to play at a high level. I just thank God they are all okay. Go blue!

Nantucket Blue

March 9th, 2017 at 3:05 PM ^

'Wreck" is more accurate then "slid off a runway" as previously reported.  The magnitude of this accident:

1) Aborted takeoff at (assumed departure roll) high speed 

2) Crashed through localizer antenna

3) Ran through 1,000' Runway safety area, presumably taking out a series of approach lights

4) Ran through a fence and across a road.

5) Passed over a swale, instead of diving into it, and

6) Collapsed all gear somewhere.

Yes, there are some safety designs in place (frangible coupling on navaids), safety area dimensions, and on-airport rescue, etc that contributed to the outcome.  And while it's perverse to use the term - a "spectacular" accident like this without fuel ignition, let alone without any serious injury is just about unheard of.  While most of us were worried about a game, this incident was likely at several junctures just a hair from us losing 109 members of our community, let alone the most deadly civil accident in near memory.

AlwaysBlue

March 9th, 2017 at 3:11 PM ^

how awful that had to be.  What can you really say except keep in mind when firing off attacks...that Donnal and Teske were taking the doors off the plane to begin the emergency exit, Irvin was in tears when he called his mother, Beilein was being splashed with fuel trying to hold down the chutes and the rest of the stories still to be told.  It's not that we all don't see when things don't go well, it's about rooting hard as hell that they do.

bluesalt

March 9th, 2017 at 3:23 PM ^

I think they've earned themselves a nice, calm bus ride. (I understand that buses are statistically less safe, but it's not about safety, but instead getting a week off from reliving trauma, since the likelihood of an accident with either is quite low.)

saveferris

March 9th, 2017 at 3:40 PM ^

Sobering to think how much worse this could've gone.  Grateful as a fan and alum that the story today is about a big victory over Illinois and not a tragic plane accident.

Wolvie3758

March 9th, 2017 at 3:44 PM ^

seconds from a Marshall type catastrophe...Cant believe how the team responded...

This can only bring the team closer and more determined...BEAT PURDUE!