January 5th, 2012 at 11:51 AM ^

I'd like to see what some of you guys would do if you had a probation date with a ride lined up but your ride falls through last minute. Some of you guys are being judgemental pricks w/o having all the facts. Get that stick out of your butt.


January 5th, 2012 at 12:01 PM ^

can make two phone calls: 1.) call a taxi asap, and 2.) call your probation officer and court telling them you'll be late, and request re-schedule.

If in this case, the mistake was relying on a "friend" for a "last minute" ride who is completely unreliable, why do that to yourself?

Just wake up a a fucking hour earlier and call a freaking taxi. 




January 5th, 2012 at 12:39 PM ^

came out of nowhere and trampled his fingers so he couldn't dial any phone numbers, and then a purple and pink unicorn circled back to fart a rainbow so bright he was temporarily blinded and couldn't see the numbers on the phone keypad either.

No, you're right. For sure it was the "My car broke down! I'm on the other side of town, bro!"

I don't know about anybody else, but I'm relieved that there is such a deep reservoir of excuses out there for not being on time.   

Sir Guy

January 5th, 2012 at 11:56 AM ^

It's so sad, because it's not that hard to NOT break the law.  Responsibiltiy plus a little common sense combined with God given talent and you have the rest of your life taken care of.  Now, his road is most likely going to be difficult.  All because of a few easily avoidable bad choices.  

I want to feel bad for him, but I don't.  The right choices are easy.  


January 5th, 2012 at 12:16 PM ^

The sad thing is that he had plenty of ways to avoid this trouble. If this was a late-notice check-in, I'm sure, as a football player, he could have called a teamate or position coach...heck, call Hoke at home. Hoke would have made sure someone just happened to be driving through Stonum's neighborhood, saw him walking, and gave him a lift. 


He could have, of course, told the PO about his ride situation and just be a little late. As a star athelete, I wonder just how long it would take him to run to the courthouse. 


Failing all that, he could have been smarter in his underhandedness. Here's a thought: instead of driving right up to the courthouse, let's try parking down the street? After the appointment, walk home and explain to whomever he took the car from what he had to do. 


January 5th, 2012 at 12:32 PM ^

I know this is a minor thing, but at this rate I'd be fine with Stonum being allowed to continue his studies but otherwise not suit up for the Wolverines.  Yes, it hurts the team from a talent perspective, but he's had too many chances and appears unable or unwilling to learn from them.  And yeah, in the grand scheme of things it is minor - he was driving to his probation hearing, and I'm sure people with suspended or revoked licenses still do drive and just hope they don't get caught.  All that said, Stonum keeps making mistakes, mistakes that for a less talented player probably would have ended his association with the team.  Let him finish his college career academically, but right now he continues to not show the maturity necessary for his reenstatement to the team.

/ And another thing, back in my day...


January 5th, 2012 at 12:47 PM ^

Before you all get bend out of shape, just remember that everyone drives drunk and on a suspended license.  You kill people, I kill people.  You steal from me and I steal from you and get paid for jobs I never worked.  Oh wait that might be a different school...


January 5th, 2012 at 12:55 PM ^

Sorry but he broke the rules. He was on a very very short leash already. If you break the rules you get punished and he's broken the rules countless times. This looks bad for the team and university. He should be held accountable for his actions.
If this were your son, would you want him essentially rewarded for ALMOST following all the rules/laws? I wouldn't.
Also it's a good thing this isn't anMSU or Ohio player because this would be full of 'he's gone' posts and pretty much no 'give him another chance.'
/that went longer than i thought
/coherent?still tired from drive back to M from NOLA


January 5th, 2012 at 1:01 PM ^

I have to assume Stonum's scheduled return was conditional: if you get a hangnail, you're gone. So, if that's the case, he has to get booted. He's had more than enough chances. And he's showing contempt for the rules. This ain't East Lansing.


January 5th, 2012 at 1:05 PM ^

This isn't just a probation violation.  He's driving without a drivers license.  That a pretty basic rule in our society.

Hoke was generous in giving Stonum a chance to take the time to get his life turned around and prove that he can follow basic rules.  Stonum violated Hoke's trust and Hoke's only option is to send him packing.

Sadly, this is probably going to set a precedent for future transgressors.  Hoke is going to be less likely to give a player the extra rope.

Class of 1817

January 5th, 2012 at 1:11 PM ^

This is terrible because it's such a SMALL thing, and he's gone through 12 positive probation reviews?!

I mean, if he had done something major, then it's easy to say, but man...if you can work on the big stuff, why would you let the stupid stuff mess you up?!

Sorry to say, but I think he's probably gone.

You JUST CAN'T do these piddly-ass, civilian-acceptable mistakes and still play Michigan football.


January 5th, 2012 at 1:28 PM ^

I guess Roundtree will really have to step up then. Who starts on the other side though?  Gallon seems a litle too small to play on the outside.  Is Jeremy Jackson good enough or do we see Justice Hayes start to play that sort of wildcard role that we thought he would play?. Like a Percy Harvin role.


January 5th, 2012 at 1:36 PM ^

Okay with him coming back to the team.  As long as he did'nt kill any hookers or drink and drive. 

And to the self righteous crowd here that do drink and drive.  It's only a matter of time.

Trollin so hard!!!


January 5th, 2012 at 1:52 PM ^

The problem is that he DID drink and drive - twice.   He also lied to his probation officer about how he got to the appointment, AFTER he got pulled over on the way there (so he should have known the probation officer would find out about it).

He's had 2 DUIs and a prior probation violation (which involved leaving the state and failing to report on several occasisons).  I don't care how minor the offense, he's out of chances.


January 5th, 2012 at 1:56 PM ^

You guys are fucking crazy. Yeah he was driving when he shouldn't have been, but his probation has been perfect thus far, even his officer said that. Let's find out why he was even stopped or where he was going that early in the morning. Some idiot fans hold the players to a higher standard than they even hold themselves - I think Brady Hoke knows that a mishap like this doesn't require any kind of drastic discipline.


January 5th, 2012 at 3:02 PM ^

From his probation appointment when he got stopped. He lied when asked how he got to the appointment. He said his girlfriend drove him. After he left, the police stopped him and found out he was suspended. They cited him but released him. With such a good reporting record and his commitment to his probation, he might get a pass. Don't know.


January 5th, 2012 at 2:03 PM ^

I've learned to really enjoy these threads. It may not be representative of reality, but I picture a bunch of people taking a brief hiatus from their World of Warcraft gaming to come here and dish out some tough internet talk.


January 5th, 2012 at 3:29 PM ^

How does a guy with no licence drive a car?  Where did he get it?  How stupid can this guy be.  The team needs him for next year, but in my opinion, not enough.  Goodbye Darryl.