More Corrupt: FIFA or the NCAA?

Submitted by MGoVoldemort on
Tough call, honestly. I'd have to say the NCAA, because at least in FIFA everyone is getting paid something.

Tater

April 9th, 2016 at 9:00 PM ^

It's a lot closer than you think.  FIFA got caught being criminally corrupt, but the NCAA has been systemically and systematically corrupt for years.  They haven't been caught breaking any laws, but they basically get away without paying their workers, who happen to be kids who cant do anything to fight back.  Any player who does have the nerve to say he deserves the money is swatted down like a fly.  

The bowl system was among the most corrupt consortium in sports.  It was the bowls and their payments to NCAA officials in the form of luxurious "perks" that kept us from having a real championship game and then playoffs for so long.  

Their so-called "enforcment" of rules regarding recruiting are more like the Armed Forces' old "don't ask, don't tell" policy.  The only time a big team gets punished is if there is a "smoking gun" that is so blatant the NCAA has to do something.  However, the little guy always gets maximum punishment.

The corruption of the NCAA, especially when it comes to uneven enforcement of rules, is perfecly described in a line I believe I saw on MGoBlog first.  When UK committed what looked like a violation, someone said, "Western Kentucky is going get hammered for that."

SMU got the "death penalty" for paying players during the CJK5H era.  UNC's academic scandal is much worse than what happened at SMU.  Does anyone really think UNC is going to get a punishment that is anywhere near the "death penalty?"

FIFA is more corrupt, but the NCAA isn't nearly as far behind as it may appear.

bsand2053

April 10th, 2016 at 12:13 AM ^

Well, one organization is working slaves to death.  The other just passed an unfair rule that will limit the opportunities of some young people.  

Both are bad in the way that flipping someone off and murdering a person are both bad.  

DairyQueen

April 9th, 2016 at 5:17 PM ^

"Taking" versus "making"?

Sounds like "legislation" is then the only difference.

Hopefully that always stays in the hands of the many people, and not the concentrated power of the few! (ooops!)

FIFA for sure. But that doesn't negate the NCAA's wrong-doings. FIFA is world-wide, orders of magnitude bigger than the NCAA. Global-scale corruption is always more egregious/high-stakes than a single country (that's historical).

 

rainingmaize

April 9th, 2016 at 6:04 PM ^

By rewarding the World Cup to Qatar, FIFA made it known that in their eyes, a few bribes are more important than the lives of thousands of migrant workers and their families. While the NCAA might be a little hypocritical, they don't break laws.

MGlobules

April 9th, 2016 at 6:41 PM ^

You might be right, but I'd like to see them tabulated. And you'd have to add the local guys in plaid sportcoats who drive away from the Diddles Cuddly Peejays Bowls in Outer Keokuk chuckling to themselves at the end of every year. And the Brandons. We might be surprised--in some poor Third World country it may be just one guy coming away with a few hundred thous. Jury is still out on this one.

bacon

April 9th, 2016 at 3:49 PM ^

FIFA and it's not close. the NCAA Is just archaic and dumb. I don't think NCAA officials are necessarily corrupt. FIFA is made up of corrupt motherfuckers who take bribes and can be bought.

Maize Craze

April 9th, 2016 at 3:53 PM ^

FIFA and it's not even close. I haven't seen any evidence that the NCAA is corrupt. They make stupid decisions but I don't think money laundering is a theme.



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rainingmaize

April 9th, 2016 at 6:09 PM ^

People here don't seem to understand the definition of corruption. When it comes to Football and Basketball, the NCAA is very hypocriticall, but they aren't doing anything that is illegal, just exploiting loopholes. FIFA execs are literally being thrown in jail, and their action have resulted in the deaths of thousands of migrant workers in Qatar.

pearlw

April 9th, 2016 at 3:54 PM ^

I dont understand why everyone refers to the NCAA as if they are some outside body making a decisions to enforce on the schools.The SCHOOLS and CONFERENCES are the ones that vote on these issues.

If you have a problem with the decisions, criticisms should be directed at specific schools or conferences that voted against satellite camps...not against some vague NCAA entity.

If you want to start a thread like this, complaints should be about the SEC, the Sun Belt, the MWC and the other conferences that voted against it. It has been very well reported as to who voted against: "Source told @ESPN conferences that voted against satellite camps: ACC, Big 12, SEC, Pac-12, MWC, Sun Belt. In favor: B1G, AAC, C-USA, MAC"

With alot of these issues, we hear coaches and schools complain about the "NCAA"...it makes little sense to me as the schools are the NCAA and the schools are the ones (or sometimes the conferences are) makng the decisions.



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Maynard

April 9th, 2016 at 5:06 PM ^

The NCAA is a separate outside body. It is not the same thing as the schools themselves. The schools are members of the NCAA. You are right though in that the individual schools should be held responsible for some of these stupid rules.

grumbler

April 9th, 2016 at 7:15 PM ^

No. The NCAA is the collective voice and arm of the universities.  It doesn't exist outside of the university context.  Jim Hackett was part of the NCAA, and I laugh at the OP for thinking that you could even call Jim Hackett corrupt, let alone wonder whether Jim Hackett was as corrupt as FIFA.

Some Michigan fans need to untwist their undies and look at the facts, not the myths they have created for themselves.  The NCAA does what the schools (inclufding Michigan) and the conferences (including the Big Ten) tell it.

The best way to get rid of the NCAA is to eliminate all intercollegiate sports above the club level. Then you don't need any central authority to coordinate the rules; clubs can decde the rules they play under on a case-by-case basis, just like they did before conferences.  You could just have a bunch of conferences with their own rules, and forget about interconference play, but going the club route is cheaper and desn't create the potential for corrupt conferences.

Sports

April 9th, 2016 at 3:54 PM ^

I mean, it's absolutely FIFA. The NCAA can be hypocritical and inept, but it isn't corrupt. For God's sake, FIFA is literally using slaves. HUMAN SLAVES. To build the World Cup facilities in Qatar, who only got the cup because they paid out an insane quantity in bribes. Say what you want about the NCAA's remarkable ability to screw things up, but FIFA is on a completely different level. They're actually evil.



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GoWings2008

April 9th, 2016 at 3:55 PM ^

NCAA, as mentioned as being hypocritical, also full of asshats, has the added dimension of claiming that it's trying to do right by the student-athlete. Stupid and a bunch of liars, but not necessarily as corrupt as FIFA.

DrewGOBLUE

April 9th, 2016 at 4:20 PM ^

Speaking of the NCAA claiming they try to do right by the student-athlete, they're currently attempting to swindle their way out of a lawsuit for negligent oversight regarding concussion protocol at a D3 school that led to a football player's death.

They use the argument that "since it’s a sports organization it has no legal duty to protect college athletes."

Fucking bunch of hypocriticizers.

grumbler

April 9th, 2016 at 7:24 PM ^

They uise the argument that they have no legal authority to determie what schools must do to carry out the schools' medical responsibilities to their players.  And they are correct.

Fucking bunch of whiners about the NCAA.  The NCAA is like every organization everywhere:  "we are dumber collectively than any of us are individually."  People need to get some steel in their spine and learn to live with the world as it is.  Organizations that don't make mistakes and don't limit their liability don't exist.

MGoKalamazoo

April 9th, 2016 at 3:56 PM ^

If corrupt is the word it has to be FIFA and it's not close. The NCAA makes flat out stupid decisions but FIFA ruins entire countries. Check out John Oliver's take on FIFA on YouTube.



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