Moderator Action Sticky 2018

Submitted by Seth on April 26th, 2018 at 7:17 AM

New offseason, new moderator sticky.

READ THIS FIRST:

http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/mgoboard-faq

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What this thread is for: It's an ad-hoc way of tracking what threads and comments get removed. Mods that remove a thread should post the title here with a brief reason as to why the thread is gone.

Don't comment in this thread unless you have to: if you leave an irrelevant comment in this thread it will be deleted (see: "cumbrously long").

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Things we moderate a lot:

  1. Politics. Don’t you get enough of this everywhere else?
  2. Noise/snowflakes. We ask our moderators to try really hard not to censor ideas but some ideas are so tiresome and retread and badly argued that they’re not worth keeping around. If you’re getting a substantial amount of downvotes we’ll look to see if you’re posting an unpopular opinion that you can support. If you can’t support it politely and rationally, or if you don’t acknowledge the holes in your argument, it’s noise.
  3. Useless content from other sites. Clickbait is annoying. 247, WTKA always get the benefit of the doubt.
  4. The Drew Sharp Memorial Don’t Feed the Professional Trolls Rule. Pete Finebaum has taken the place of the late Sharp. Valenti and Chatsports are the other two on the ban list. Bleacher Report is off the list but still under close observation.
  5. Bewbs and general misogyny/objectifying of women. We tried one year of this and our female readership shot up after being really low. This means it’s a good rule: however much you enjoy cutting loose with the guys, we have tens of thousands of readers it drives away.

Hall of Stickies Past:

The first, the second, the third. the fourth. The fifth. The sixth. The seventh.

Great Moments in Moderation:

Comments

Seth

August 18th, 2018 at 8:50 PM ^

"McMurphy reports further unprofessional activities by Zach Smith at OSU"

Clearly Smith's behavior at work is relevant to whether Urban was right to overlook much more abhorrent alleged behavior out of work. But this thread got out of control, not just from the Buckeye trying to argue otherwise but the replies to him were awful too.

For some reason right now I can't Lock This Thread like I would normally so I took it down and I will let human element know we need that back

LSAClassOf2000

August 19th, 2018 at 4:04 PM ^

ESPN MNF No Longer Showing National Anthem

One word of advice for the OP - don't insert your views into the post, especially if you're going to use words like "disrespectful", because it will derail the dialogue almost instantly. 

MichiganFan1984

August 21st, 2018 at 2:50 PM ^

Having a different opinion than you and asking what you have done to help the African American community is not trolling, but since it’s so important to you I will actually sign out and leave on my own until this blog stops letting people like me get bullied. It’s disgusting. Bye... maybe I’ll come back sometime. God bless all of you and Go Blue! 

Section 1.8

August 26th, 2018 at 4:47 PM ^

Wow, did it ever!  I won't say, "unsurprisingly."  Because that was an astonishing level of moonbat cruelty.  So yeah, count me as surprised.

Because this is the moderation page, and the regular Board page will now be available for far too many people to see (and hopefully just shake their heads and not hold it against others associated with the Board), I just want to say something about that rumor from the far-left and far-right fever swamps concerning McCain's role in the Forrestal fire.  (The far left used it against McCain in 2008, and the far right have used it against McCain in recent years.  McCain was pissing off all the right people.)

The story that McCain caused the Forrstal fire is complete, total bullshit that doesn't stand up to ten minutes' worth of serious investigation.  Snopes called it "fabricated."  Factcheck.org said it was a "nasty claim" that was "bunk."  Politifact gave it a "Pants on Fire" (a badly unintended pun) rating.

I recalled this claim going back to the 2008 election, and before.  Back then, I had read the report and especially the unquestioned diagram of where all the planes and bombs were on the deck of the Forrestal when the disaster happened.

What happened in 1967 was that on the deck of the Forrestal, a large multi-plane attack was being prepared.  McCain was in his A-4 Skyhawk, parked along the port side of the aft area of the flight deck.  McCain's wingman was in the Skyhawk next to him.  Both of their tails were pointed off the side of the deck.  They were not taking off. 

From about 100 feet away, a Zuni missile went off while it was being loaded onto a F-4 Phantom.  The missile rack happened to be pointing at the Skyhawks of McCain and his wingman.  The missile flew across the deck, took off a sailor's arm, and slammed into the belly fuel tanks of McCain's Skyhawk as well as his wingman's.  The missile's warhead was not armed, but the force of the collision and the shrapnel tore open the belly fuel tanks on the Skyhawks.  A fire started immediately, and McCain, also hit by shrapnel, got out of his Skyhawk, and went with others to help his wingman, who later died.  The fire crews went to work, but the biggest problem was that there were some Korean War-era bombs that fell to the deck and began to roast in the fire.  Because of their age and design, they exploded, adding to the spilled fuel and fire. 134 sailors died and 161 were wounded in the fires and explosions as several 1000-pound bombs exploded on the crowded, fully-loaded aft deck.  Burning jet fuel poured through holes in the deck into the lower decks.  The worst aircraft carrier fire since WWII.

That's the short version.  The even shorter version is that MGoMember "GnuBlu" polluted that thread with what would have been a plainly defamatory post if it weren't such a laughably stupid urban legend to begin with.

 

Section 1.8

August 29th, 2018 at 4:42 PM ^

Moderators:

I am accustomed to massive quantities of unjustified personal abuse on the MGoBoard.  Have you ever had a member who tolerated more regular abuse than me?

But this is not tolerable:

ST3

August 29th, 2018 at 3:12 PM ^

Section 1.8 has a thing about defending un-convicted rapists and un-convicted domestic abusers. It makes me wonder what he's done in his past.

 

I note how many upvotes this oblique defamation of me has been getting. 

 

Bando Calrissian

August 30th, 2018 at 1:12 AM ^

ST3's overstep aside, you spend a significant portion of your time here blatantly concern trolling about various off-field incidents in the football program's recent past, finding a way to insert them into completely unrelated topics in longwinded, often nonsensical ways. Just like you did before. You get downvoted because many of us remember how tedious it was the first time around, and don't like it much this time, either, especially when it's repackaged to push unapologetic defenses of Zach Smith. 

Just my $.02.

ST3

September 1st, 2018 at 5:58 PM ^

You could be right that he is merely concern trolling. Comments of his with vote totals in that thread of -6, -8, -11, -14, -14, -24, -26, and -62 suggest his concern trolling is “noise” as this thread defines that term.  As such, they should be deleted at a minimum, and should earn him another banning. 

Is it not a rational thing to do to wonder what motivates someone to write, “I have seen little evidence to suggest that Urban Meyer’s, or OSU’s handling is any different from Michigan’s.” Talk about your oversteps, indeed.

P.S. In the same comment that he wrote the above, he takes on his favorite boogeyman, Title IX. How about answering this question, Section 1.8, what did Title IX do to you?

MH20

August 31st, 2018 at 8:42 AM ^

Because at this point there's only one available person with banishment abilities (Seth) and he's pretty busy in his own right. LSA does not have the ability to ban as I understand it. He can nuke threads and I think that's about it.

But yeah, that account needs to go.

Aspyr

September 3rd, 2018 at 9:29 AM ^

Seth, this guy is at it again.

https://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/i-sincerely-apologize-my-guarantee

https://mgoblog.com/users/mineral-king
https://mgoblog.com/users/it%27s-always-marcia
https://mgoblog.com/users/michiganfan1984

and probably 2-3 other accounts in this thread.

I'm not sure why this obvious troll is still allowed to post on this board but he is ramping up his attacks on B. Peters, Pep etc.

it's-always-marcia

"Peters better start thinking now about graduating early so he can grad transfer at the end of the season."

Bando Calrissian

September 6th, 2018 at 3:05 PM ^

I have to say that I'm finding the generally awful takes around here about sexual and domestic violence, particularly in the wake of Zach Smith, to be pretty troubling. It's hard to believe that the board would be OK with allowing men's rights advocates to use the same old talking points and concern trolling to make light of such an important issue. Beyond the usual Section 1 shenanigans, there's stuff like this:

https://mgoblog.com/comment/243061139#comment-243061139

There's only so much the community can self-police with downvotes, and it's heartening to see this kind of stuff hit negative double digits very, very quickly, but the persistence starts to grate.

Cam

September 8th, 2018 at 6:38 PM ^

How has SpilledMilk not been banned?  The guy is the most obvious OSU troll in history.  Are there any mods left on this site?

mrawatson

September 11th, 2018 at 9:59 AM ^

On further reflection I am coming to the conclusion that the misguided attempt at creating a millennial "safe space" on this blog is an extension of UM policies to make sure that all who visit are comfortable: "The University of Michigan’s new campus policy is to allow students to choose their own personal pronoun which must be respected by other campus members, including professors." I am starting to feel marginalized by the censorship. Beginning now please address any replies to "The Honorable mrawatson." Thank you for considering my feelings.

Jibbroni

September 11th, 2018 at 8:20 PM ^

OK.  Enough is enough.  Please do something about the insane amount of sociopaths who find it acceptable to engage their own alter egos at the expense of the regular contributors to this site.  You know of who I speak.  SkyPanther, MichiganFan1984,whats the new one, 303john, jamesjosephharbaugh, mineral king.  Its gotten to be unbearable.  It takes away from the contributions of those like squirrel and rj and matt d.  Please!

MichiganFan1984

September 12th, 2018 at 7:42 PM ^

Mods there are two threads posted Michigan. Sorry it was a glitch, please delete. 

Edit... I posted my intentions in the offense philosophy thread since I was shown no respect and my thread letting everyone know I was banning my self for 6months was deleted. 

Sai anjima...

jimmyjoeharbaugh

September 12th, 2018 at 9:11 PM ^

banned the wrong guy, LSA.  i got attacked by everyone on the board for multiple days after making a joke about the Mineral King situation and then pointed out that all those who kept getting dragged into the drama would probably end up creating multiple accounts anyway - and for this mortal sin I got sent to bolivia.

no skin off my back, your board and you can do what you want, but i'll just drop 2 points here:

1. you whiffed on this because you should have taken action on the people who kept attacking the users insisting they were innocent instead of banning the accused. 

2. it was requested multiple times by those of us getting dragged into troll court that mods look at the account data (email address, ip addresses, locations, post history), and they'd be able to easily tell if any accounts were multiples. i realize slapping a ban on someone is quick and easy but why couldn't you have just taken a look like you were asked and put the question to rest instead of sentencing active users without a trial?

anyway try to get it right next time please. i'm not the instigator here.

jimmyjoeharbaugh

September 12th, 2018 at 10:03 PM ^

jfc. i didn't self impose anything because i'm not that account. just go read the posts, it's dead simple to see the difference.

The multiple account person uses CamelCase to make their usernames, I use lowercase.  All their accounts showed up in Feb-April 2018, mine was 2016. They make pretty short comments, I write novels. 

look, the Wayback Machine in Jan 2017 captured some of my early posts starting in Oct 2016.  https://web.archive.org/web/20170114142139/mgoblog.com/users/jamesjosephharbaugh

go look at the Wayback Machine for SkyPanther, MichiganFan1984, mineral-king, none of these accounts showed up until early to mid- 2018. SpilledMilk was around in Oct 2017.  

as i said multiple times, i have no idea if any of those accounts were the same, but I. Am. Not. Them.

jimmyjoeharbaugh

September 13th, 2018 at 12:27 PM ^

Crickets.... that's disappointing.

Well here's the best I've figured out how to do.  Since my comment history is blocked now, you can scroll through the Wayback Machine captures of my comment history to see everything I posted here from the beginning all the way up to June 2018 and you can see that:

  • there's nothing vulgar or remotely trollish in the least
  • my style (capitalization, tenure, comment length, cockiness) is not at all similar to the multi-troll, easy to tell it's not the same person
  • basically i'm just a normal poster

since nobody took any effort to do this kind of comparison as far as i can tell and hung me without a trial, I'm just dropping this here so the intellectually honest can make their own judgment.  does that user history look like it's the same person as MKing, 1984, skypanther, smugbastard?  

So it's still unexplained why I've been banned except for just being victim to the public lynchmob.  this is the thread "to get the mods attention" supposedly.  anyone want to offer an explanation?