Moderator Action Sticky

Submitted by Zone Left on December 16th, 2011 at 9:35 PM

Brian has requested that instead of deleting each individual comment in the Moderator Action Sticky, that we instead just create a new thread. It takes hours of less time, preserves the comments for future explanations, and just clears things up faster.

You'll notice that the previous thread is now locked, and will slowly fade back into darkness. For the time being, the link from the Useful Stuff menu will point to the wrong location. We're working on a fix for that.

 

This thread is an ad-hoc way of tracking what threads and comments get removed. Mods that remove a thread should post the title here with a brief reason as to why the thread is gone.

NOTE: if you leave an irrelevant comment in this thread it will be deleted.

Comments

MaizeMN

February 8th, 2013 at 12:07 AM ^

Can you please look at locking or deleting these? Seth (and/or another Mod) locked and deleted the "oversigning/too many scholarship threads' because they may be insensitive to players involved. I suggest this is the same, with only one target; Reon Dawson. The kid just signed his LOI and deserves benefit of doubt until coaches/staff decide otherwise.   

profitgoblue

February 8th, 2013 at 1:21 PM ^

I watched the first thread pretty closely and it was generally tame.  Mostly just comments about how he'll learn and people explaining how its possible to be a fan of one team and play for the other.  I was trigger-happy, waiting to delete obnoxious comments but I didn't see any, FWIW.

MikeCohodes

February 8th, 2013 at 1:22 PM ^

I didn't think this was thread worthy or worth jacking a different thread, but I have a question and I can't find an answer. I haven't seen anyone else talking about this in various topics.

When I am looking at the comment section of the board, from different browsers and different PCs, the area around the name of the commenter is now gray, and the area around their picture is now red.  Why do we have scarlet and gray on the website in any fasion?  Did someone lose a bet?  or is it just my account where this is happening?

MikeCohodes

February 11th, 2013 at 8:40 AM ^

and its still doing this from my work PC, putting gray around the username of a commenter, and red around their photo.  It has stopped doing this on my home PC, where I use chrome.  at work I'm stuck using IE since we can't download chrome onto our PCs.  Is anyone else having this issue or it is something to do with my browser?

Also I find it funny that someone came through and neg-bombed the moderator thread.  I have no idea how my original comment is flamebait lol.

MikeCohodes

February 11th, 2013 at 1:51 PM ^

that you don't know what's causing the coloration of the poster name.  it's good to know its not just me though.

as to the negging, someone is on a hate-binge on me for god only knows why lately, they've gone back and downvoted everything I've posted recently as flamebait, including the congrats on the guy who's wife had twins saturday.  oh well.  troller has to troll I guess, I just wish they had the balls to man up and admit who they were and what I did to set them off, but I know that'll never happen.

OMG Shirtless

February 9th, 2013 at 9:07 AM ^

It's not up to me, but if it was anyone who puts this on the internet should be banned from the city of Ann Arbor.

eamus_caeruli: I will say it and don't care about the consequences...I don't want him here. I hope the seniors and staff make him feel very uncomfortable. I bet he doesn't last long, and better yet I hope he doesn't qualify. Perhaps there will be a mix up at the registars office, and he didn't actually get accepted.

http://mgoblog.com/users/eamuscaeruli

MGoBender

February 9th, 2013 at 2:55 PM ^

Can we please consider significantly raising the point threshold to moderate posts on game days?

Either that or can we have a better mod presence in game threads?

I'm at the point where I'm just about done on MGoBlog for gamedays. It is just as bad as MLive - constant bitching about players, refs, and coaches. If someone tries to give an objective viewpoint (i.e. No I don't think Stauskas was fouled.) they are met with a Maize and Blue blinded mob mentality.

You can choose to do nothing, that's fine. But MGoBlog used to differentiate itself from MLive. I'm certainly not looking for another MLive.

stephenrjking

February 9th, 2013 at 3:47 PM ^

Look, if you're going to downvote other people's threads, that's no problem and certainly your prerogative. But I have a very hard time taking your complaint about this seriously when you neg OPs that are not actually doing what you are complaining about, apparently out of revenge. If you want this to be a place of reason and discussion, try to do it positively. Not be negging threads without actually reading them.

And when people do neg your posts, demonstrate their foolishness by making persuasive, intelligent arguments to the contrary. Believe it or not, some people will notice the unfair negs and posbang you back. (FWIW I upvoted your negged response in the Stauskas thread because I felt it made a good point and that the downvotes were unfair, regardless of whether I agreed.)

EDIT: My response is critical, but your post is not invalid. I see that someone is chasing you around and negging you, so I upvoted you here, too. 

MGoBender

February 9th, 2013 at 7:36 PM ^

I downvoted your OP because of your opening line:

Another game, another series of questionable calls

And that might have been harsh without a response.I can go into insane detail, but to put it succinctly: Dan Dakich was right, the officials were very good today. 

I know that's not a favorable opinion around the losing team, but it is true. Those were three of the highest rated refs in college basketball collectively. Did you know Gene Seratore worked the National Championship a year or two ago? Also, did you know (talking generally, not to you specifically) that "B10 refs" are actually refs that work Big East and Big 12 as well? It's not just one set of guys that works only the B10. Also, did you know that every single whistle and non-whistle is judged by the league office and officials are graded and given games accordingly? There's no Big-Ten conspriracy there. Maybe its that the Big 10 has teams like WIsconsin and Penn State and MSU that muck up the play and play physical, resulting in the appearance of different styles of officiating, not the other way around?

All these things would have been good discussion points in your thread, but let's be honest: There's no way I was going to make any of those very valid points without getting flamed, so I didn't bother. I saved my time and simply downvoted. Sorry to you - it wasn't personal. I just didn't want to deal with MGoIdiots.

The fact is, the officials are never as bad as people make them out to be and the thread about Stauskas is the perfect example. You show the Stauskas play to 10 unaffiliated people and 9 of them say "Good no call." And it's kind of my point that usually people will notice the dumb behavior and act accordingly. But when I got negged today for calling a guy out who called Dakich a "fucking cunt", maybe I lost it a bit. My bad.

OMG Shirtless

February 9th, 2013 at 3:13 PM ^

If you're complaining about getting negged, you're only going to get negged more going forward. It's a vicious cycle.  In Open Threads, people get negged for replying to old posts.  Something you seem to do quite a bit of when you're taking issue with people complaining about the refs.   It disrupts the flow of the thread.  When you click to refresh the thread it often goes to the first new post in the thread which may result in having to scroll for 30 seconds to get back down to the new comments.  This doesn't bother me, but it has come up before.

If you're complaining about the comments bitching about the players/refs/coaches then I'd think you're better off avoiding MGoBlog during games.  You'll never be able to stop that.  There's a reason the term MGoIdiot exists.  Those people come out the most in Open Threads and after losses.

justingoblue

February 9th, 2013 at 5:17 PM ^

  • That's way above my paygrade. If you're looking for a change in basic site functionality, your best bet is to contact Brian. His email is linked at the top of the page.
  • I really don't know what to tell you here. No, I wasn't present real time in the game thread, but I read this post before scrolling through it and I'm honestly confused by your post. Nearly 1,000 comments were posted, of which six made me uncomfortable to have on the board and two were deleted with nobody losing points or being caved. For a frustrating loss, posts breaking rules at a .2% clip seems to validate this not being MLive.

MGoBender

February 9th, 2013 at 7:20 PM ^

I never said we didn't lose because of the players. We lost because the players didn't make plays.

And I'm not contrary to "EVERYTHING".  Maybe I'm contrary to blame. Or bitching.  Or people posting things like "Dan Dakich is a fucking cunt" and getting upvoted for it.

Because at the end of the day, Dan Dakich was right: OSU is the best team in the B10 right now. Maybe MSU. That's another debate.

 

M-Wolverine

February 9th, 2013 at 9:34 PM ^

When you say it's "maybe MSU?" It either is or it isn't, and if it's up for debate he can't be right. It's just like, his opinion, man. And that's the problem; you're coming off like "because I don't agree with what the fans think I'm being the rational one." No, you're just being condescending. Like your post above that "9 of 10 unbiased people old say that's a good call." And while I certainly think that play could be up for debate, the only way you get 9 of 10 people to say he didn't hack the arm to get to the ball is if you're polling MSU fans.

And being contrary to blame IS just being contrary. We lost; there are reasons. Reasons that get blame. It wasn't divine intervention. If the players played badly then they're to blame. If the coaches didn't have them ready to play then they're to blame. If the refs didn't allow the players to play then they're to blame. But we lost a game we should have won. If you don't like bitching about losing, you are in the wrong place.

MGoBender

February 10th, 2013 at 11:39 AM ^

That's my point!  It's, like, Dakich's opinion man!  I thought that at MGoBlog we don't call people "fucking cunts" for having opinions - reasonable opinions - that are not the same as ours. Instead, that comment and several like it were celebrated which made me suggest that maybe the point level should be upped.

That's my whole point.

As for blame... It's sports. It's a game. Someone will always win and someone will always lose and sometimes there is just a better team. Sometimes a team plays better.  If you're desperate to place blame so you can feel better about yourself and tell yourself that Michigan is still the best team in the world, then fine - blame the officials, blame the coaches.  Congrats, we were screwed and we don't have to face the fact that we lost a game and need to move on.

It was predicted to be a 2 point game. It went to overtime thanks to a lucky shot. Shit happens. Every player on our team made a play in crunch time that contributed to the loss, so no I don't feel like people should say things like "John Beilein is a fucking idiot for X" and "Caris LeVert can fill out his transfer papers today."

For the record: I "blame" Trey Burke for playing heroball. That's the only complaint I have about our 21-3 team. I'm going to enjoy the rest of the season now and hope Morgan is healthy for Tuesday.

profitgoblue

February 13th, 2013 at 4:20 PM ^

I missed this at first - only glanced at it without reading it closely.  Thanks to ChopBlock for pointing it out.  OP, stay classy.  Don't be THAT guy that makes us all look like d-bags (e.g. don't use "whoreshoe" as a tagline).

profitgoblue

February 13th, 2013 at 5:33 PM ^

You should know better, OP.  You're one of the elders.  Also, why just boys?  Don't girls get to put the loss behind them?  Why should they have to stew about it while the boys get to move on?  Doesn't seem fair and, to be honest, it seems downright sexist.

justingoblue

February 18th, 2013 at 9:45 AM ^

Unless the auction is like "Center Ice sells his action figure collection" or "support kitten murder" or something, it should be fine to post in moderation. Seth said something a while back about this not becoming a charity board and we should keep that in mind, but it's not like there have been a ton of these lately.

If we're making up board rules, I can't think of any MGoBlue stories that would actually be bad posts (maybe just some boring ones), so make a thread on anything reasonable from the official site.

Seth

February 19th, 2013 at 11:33 AM ^

I'm more lax about it during OT season. Anyone doing a charity is not okay but charities the athletic department is actively involved in are always going to be okay because they're useful to the readers who are interested in things like buying old gear or meeting the coaches, etc.

The reason the MGoBlue charities get nutso sometimes is because MGoBlue charities are nutso lately. It's an open secret that there's been some nasty internal politics going on between charity organizers and the athletic department.

West German Judge

February 20th, 2013 at 4:16 PM ^

In the 11W-3rd-Year-Michigan-Coaches thread, poster CoastalElite summed up one of my chief reservations about this site in one post: (http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/michigan-coaches-their-3rd-year-eleven-warr…)

I couldn't agree any more.  I post this in the moderator action sticky thread because I saw how justingoblue had to remove multiple Kate Upton SI posts because the readership was a little bit too excited to break the word about our "official mascot".  That wouldn't happen on 11W, or thewolverine, or wolverinenation (maybe RCMB but they have some silly threads over there), but it is oddly encouraged on this board to beat certain things to death.  I sometimes don't even open otherwise pertinent threads because I know an intergalactic recruiting, where's the threat?, uncommittable offer, or any of the other countless horribly redundant jokes will be out in full force.  

Can anything be done?  I for one am perfectly content with OT season being "slow" if the trade off isn't having silly posts and threads clutter the board. I visit the board for insight and analysis and news and intelligent discourse, and while understand that a sense of community is inherent due to us all being fans and alumni of the same team/school/institution, it can be intimidating to new posters and a turn off to those returning that there is a pervasive cliquey groupthink dynamic.  You can be an individual with an opinion...for as long as you can agree that Kate Upton is a goddess and Fred Jackson jokes are hilarious and  that there is an opportunity to ask"so you're saying we still have a chance?" in every thread.

I use Kate Upton as exhibit A for I've seen posters question everybody's infatuation with her, only to be marked -1:trolling while everybody is 5:normal for telling the rare dissenter that they are "not American" or "need their eyes checked" or their girlfriend wouldn't stack up well in comparison.  It turns into an online version of smear the queer.  

I'd have stopped lurking and signed up for an account much sooner and posted at a more natural rate if it weren't for fear of being negged to "Bolivian" for not adapting to the party line.