Miles Bridges pays $40, clears NCAA violation

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According to the report on ESPN, Bridges' family members had a dinner paid for by Christian Dawkins without his knowledge, and that was the extent of his violation. He paid back the $40 value of the dinner and is now clear. Amazing how the NCAA solves some situations so fast while other important ones take far too long (there were also expense reports documenting further payment from Dawkins, but since Bridges and MSU deny the payment, the were dismissed. Go figure).

jblaze

February 27th, 2018 at 9:17 AM ^

Why doesn't Michigan have the balls to be like MSU? Deny and dare the NCAA?

We can all sit here and laugh and joke about the poor kid that is trying to act like a Blue Blood, but why?

Blue4You

February 27th, 2018 at 9:33 AM ^

25 years of zero allegations or even a sniff of wrongdoing in dirty recruiting and something as insignificant as this means the guy is a dirty scumbag who’s a dirty recruiter. Get real you lunatics. Izzo’s Recruiting classes? He's had 4 top 10 recruiting classes in the last 15 years. But just for fun, per 247 composite rankings. 2018 #11 2017 #49 2016 #3 2015 #25 2014 #40 2013 #79 The amount of 1 and dones that he lost out on? Can you people put away your blind hatred for one second?

bklein09

February 27th, 2018 at 9:44 AM ^

Lets be honest, the scumbag reputation for Izzo is not just based on this Bridges situation.

The sexual assault issues are far more damning.

His actions give the impression that he is a win at all costs type of coach, so when allegations like this come along, he’s not getting the benefit of the doubt. Nor should he.

And by the way, he still refuses to talk about Appling, Payne, Walton, etc. But they sure did work hard to clear Bridges in one day.

bklein09

February 27th, 2018 at 10:56 AM ^

Well for starts, everything detailed by OTL. Plus the current walk-on on his roster who was charged with assault. He refuses to talk about any of it because his team is playing well. Seems like a dude with his priorities out of order.

Clearing Bridges in a day because he and his mom said it wasn’t true, etc. Oh and because it’s a week before the tournament.

Appling and Payne playing for 4 years is more than enough to cast doubt on Izzo. He should not be getting any more free passes at this point.

Gatekeeper

February 27th, 2018 at 11:02 AM ^

Before Izzo landed the 2016 class, he made a speech about changing the ways he's been doing things

 

SInce then, he has landed 3 5*'s and 3 4*'s

 

The 2016 class is 3rd with 2 5* and 2 4*

that 2017 class ranking is 49th, because MSU only signed 2 recruits, a 5* and a 4*. Don't act like that is a bad recruiting class with Jackson and Tillman.

jblaze

February 27th, 2018 at 10:27 AM ^

Yours? Mine?

Maybe we should have followed the law as morals/ ethics are ambiguas. MSU was certainly immoral and unethical (by common society's standards) but did a coach at MSU break the law? Do their alums/ boosters care? 

I think MSU is handling this, meaning Nassar, cheating, rape culture... amazingly and wish UM had an AD as smart as Hollis.

rbgoblue

February 27th, 2018 at 9:56 AM ^

To think that for the past two years, the MSU compliance office failed to identify that Bridges had received illegal benefits, however, with help of the FBI identified and resolved this issue within 24 hours.

rbgoblue

February 27th, 2018 at 11:04 AM ^

That’s the role of the compliance department. They have to look for that kind of thing. If MSU compliance was able to identify and correct completely separate issue than the one discovered by the FBI probe within 24 hours, it seems unlikely that it would have eluded them for the previous 2 years if they were doing their job and looking.

It’s a poor look for a program currently under the microscope for failing to monitor their student athletes.

NateVolk

February 27th, 2018 at 9:56 AM ^

The FBI investigation, which we still haven't seen in full because it's ongoing, paints a graphic picture. 

Anyone doubting there are secretive systems in place on behalf of many big name coaches to compete for and keep players in your program with benefits to the player's family, is choosing not to see what that investigation is doing. The FBI is looking at an issue the NCAA wouldn't or couldn't and forcing the NCAA's hand to do real investigations and issue real penalties. The pressure will come from the schools who aren't being named.

We can parcel out Izzo's weaker recruiting classes all we want and say that's evidence of him being clean. We can also note that without a horse like Bridges or Gary Harris recently, his teams are outgunned against everyone else grabbing all the elite talent. So therein is his motivation.

The FBI deal right now is only a current and very limited snapshot. It's not yet completed. Whether they are finding "crimes" in the penal code sense means less than the fact that there is now light on how big time college basketball operates. It's not going to let the story be told by phony BS coaches like Coach K and Roy Williams and their lecture tour lingo about hard work and character. 

It's the beginning of what hopefully will be a cleansing and an evening of the playing field. 

People saying Bridge's paying $40 made this all stop are as full of it as people claiming Izzo was aware of people writing a specific check for a specific recruit. There is a truth somewhere in the middle that is yet to be revealed. Not just about him, but all these rock star coach types.

If you would rather not read, go watch "Blue Chips" with Nick Nolte. Check out how the top recruits suddenly start flowing to his school in one class. The coach knows it can be done, is glad it's done, and is kept just clear of the details so he can play dumb to his fans. 

It's a movie, but that's what the FBI is unraveling.

 

charblue.

February 27th, 2018 at 10:17 AM ^

Izzo got pissed when he learned a player he'd been recruiting since middle school wound up committing to Michigan. Now, if you are recruiting at the middle school level and following kids through high school, you aren't going to be dealing directly with the target himself but his family. And if you are maintaining regular contact that long with a particular family and his son, there is a greater likelihood that they will pursue representation and perhaps seek outside counsel from an agent. There is also a greater likelihood of untoward stuff happening to improve that relationship

College basketball at one time in the past was vastly more popular than the pro game. And then point-shaving ruined the game. There have always been scandals associated with recruitment.

Certain scandals permanently wrecked the future of many once dominating urban basketball programs, which, had they not succumbed would have benefitted from the rise of inner city black talent like Lew Alcindor. Most of the great college coaches came out of NYC and then used that influence to grow the game in the ACC. 

When you watch Bill Raferty announce games, remember he came from that era. He knew the pitfalls of college basketbal and where all the bodies are buriedl. Back in the day as a kid growing up in Jersey,  I saw his awful Seton Hall teams play at MSG. Basketball in NY used to be king. It was huge.

In my lifetime, there hasn't been an era of college basketball not tainted by scandal.

I mean there has been sketchy recruiting and player eligiblity in the game from UCLA to UNC. The NCAA was hired to give cover to college sports and show that it's intent was to compete honestly with the veneer of sanctity in the form of outside regulation because the schools themselves could never be counted on to do it without question.

As things stand today, the NCAA receives almost its entire annual funding from one source:  its basketball tournament. So, from an organizational standpoint do you think that it is going to jeopardize that, billions in generated revenue,  by removing key players from the most prominent basketball programs on the cusp of the most anticipated and watched yearly tournament in the land? I don't think so.

You will see lip service paid to this FBI investigation and the Yahoo disclosures by those in the game and by NCAA's tournament partners. Expecting anything else just isn't realistic under the circumstances.

 

LSAClassOf2000

February 27th, 2018 at 10:19 AM ^

Even at that, my favorite story is still the two players in the Big XII that had to shell out something like $3,50 each because they ate pasta over and above their allotment lest their eligibility be threatened....over pasta. 

The NCAA is a strange, strange organization indeed. 

NateVolk

February 27th, 2018 at 10:27 AM ^

I also think the focus on whether Izzo, Roy Williams, K, Dantonio or any other coach stays employed is totally misplaced focus. 

The universities are going to do what they do in each case. When they make certain choices to double down on this coach or that coach, they suffer consequences in reputation that will live on for year's past whatever coaches' tenure.

That's the real penalty even while keeping the coach. A university reveals itself or what it is and everyone outside of sports fans thinks it's a perversion of priorities. 

Beilein has played Dr. "Survivors" to a draw for nearly a decade. A bounce here and there and Dantonio has dropped 3 straight to Michigan. Let them stay. Let them go. Whatever..... But these schools and college basketball particularly needs to be cleaned up. 

SpartyJon

February 27th, 2018 at 3:10 PM ^

The better team (Record, AP final ranking) has won each matchup. Luck is in play the entirety of the game, not just the last few seconds. 2007 UM 9-4 18th AP, MSU 7-6 NR UM 28 MSU 24 2008 UM 3-9 NR, MSU 9-4 24th MSU 35 UM 21 2009 UM 5-7 NR, MSU 6-7 NR MSU 26 UM 20 2010 UM 7-6 NR, MSU 11-2 14th MSU 34 UM 17 2011 UM 11-2 12th, MSU 11-3 11th MSU 28-14 2012 UM 8-5 24th, MSU 7-6 NR UM 12 MSU 10 2013 UM 7-6 NR, MSU 13-1 3rd MSU 29-6 2014 UM 5-7 NR, MSU 11-2 5th MSU 35 UM 11 2015 UM 10-3 12th, MSU 12-2 6th MSU 27 UM 23 2016 UM 10-3 10th, MSU 3-9 NR UM 32 MSU 23 2017 UM 8-5 NR, MSU 10-3 15th MSU 14-10 It's not luck. It's the better team winning every rivalry match up since Dantonio has been HC at MSU. As Bo used to say, "The better team won".

NRK

February 27th, 2018 at 4:07 PM ^

Thanks for the data - and generally I do think that it's been close to that especially when you look at the non-Harbaugh years.

I don't really want to go down the hypothetical hole here or say things should have/could have happend differently (rather I'm looking at the contention as a whole) but isn't that a bit self-fulfilling? For the most part, the winner does better because teams with more wins finish better.

Take 2015, presume that the punt gets off and no TD like is the statistical expectation, and UM is 11-2 and MSU is 10-3*, right? In which case, the "better team" still wins in your criteria, but that seems like the "better team" is simply being driven by that single play rather than an attempt to determine who actually was the "better team." Which is exactly what the guy you're responding to was saying.

*They lose to UM (+1 loss, -1 win), and they don't go to Big 10 championship to get a win against Iowa (-1 win).

NRK

February 28th, 2018 at 9:18 AM ^

Yeah, good point on the Bama game I had that in my head when I was writing it, but didn't account for it when actually typing it out. It'd be 10-2, not 10-3 as I originally wrote (L: Nebraska, UM, no L v Bama, no W v Iowa). MSU would be 6-2 in Big Ten, and OSU would go to Big Ten championship v. Iowa at 7-1.

SpartyJon

February 27th, 2018 at 8:10 PM ^

There wasn't an argument over which teams were better. The exceptions are 2015 and 2011. I'll still contend most stats that predict wins TOP/Yardage, etc. MSU was ahead in during the 2015 game. We had 150+ more yards and twice the number of first downs. We were neutralized for a long time by of all things, an epic punt. Honestly your punter was a big reason you were in position to contend for the win anyway. I don't think I've ever seen a punter have such a good play and horrible play in any game I've ever watched. Those teams were evenly matched and probably if they played 10 times each team wins 5.

NRK

February 28th, 2018 at 9:28 AM ^

TOP for 2015 was 30:11 v 29:49. That's not a significant enough gap that it should be read as "predicting a win." 

In any event, the same stats can be pointed to as "predicting" a win for UM in 2017. Michigan led in TOP, yardage, and first downs.

 

What both games have in common is that the opposing offense wasn't doing much - MSU struggled v. UM's defense in '15 and O'Korn struggling throwing the ball in the monsoon in '17.

So both teams turtled a bit to grind out a win. MSU did it in '17 though UM had a shot at the end. UM did it and obviously lost in a spectacular, incredibly flukey play.

 

 

BigBlue02

February 27th, 2018 at 10:38 AM ^

MSU fans are the. Fucking. Worst. It has literally gone like this: Izzo two years ago in a presser: “looks like we are going to have to change the way we recruit so we can compete” MSU then gets the 3rd best class in the nation, Bridges has his name on an FBI report as someone who’s family is working with agents and receiving illegal benefits MSU fans reaction:” man, Tom Izzo is so clean. I’m so proud of him”

Mr Grainger

February 27th, 2018 at 10:43 AM ^

Regarding all these MSU issues/scandals/problems they seem to keep getting away with or successfully burying ...

It reminds me of something my aunt used to say: Give 'em enough rope and they'll hang themselves.

AMazinBlue

February 27th, 2018 at 10:57 AM ^

what happened and how the NCAA does nothing about it.  The obvious truth here is the Tournament (March Madness) is their cash cow and they will do whatever it takes to make sure all the top teams and players are cleared and free to play without fear or obstruction of playing.

Nothing is going to change except they will probably allow players to get jobs or get paid.  Either way that will escalate out of control.  They stopped the players from getting jobs because top athletes would get a "job" at a booster's or donor's business and get paid lots of dollars and never show up.

They need to crucify a few top programs to clean this up, but that will never happen.  Just like MSU will get no penalty and Izzo and Dantonio will come out unscatheed and coach for as long as they want to.

Reality, not being negative

NRK

February 27th, 2018 at 11:52 AM ^

No, it only is once the instituation becomes aware and until the charity amount is paid, if the value is under $200:

16.01.1.1 Restitution for Receipt of Impermissible Benefits. Unless otherwise noted, for violations of Bylaw 16 in which the value of the benefit is $200 or less, the eligibility of the student-athlete shall not be affected conditioned upon the student-athlete repaying the value of the benefit to a charity of his or her choice. The student-athlete, however, shall remain ineligible from the time the institution has knowledge of receipt of the impermissible benefit until the student-athlete repays the benefit. For violations of Bylaw 16 in which there is no monetary value to the benefit, violations shall be considered institutional violations per Constitution 2.8.1; however, such violations shall not affect the student-athlete's eligibility. (Adopted: 11/1/01, Revised: 8/5/04, 1/19/18)

Source: NCAA Bylaw 16.01.1.1 (Link)

GMSUM

February 27th, 2018 at 11:26 AM ^

MSU basketball has now reached the point of no return.  

Any other violations that may come to light from the FBI investigation and were not reported to the NCAA over the weekend should result in some Jim Tressel like sanctions.

Unless of course Tom Izzo has early onset Alzheimer's.