Mike Weber on a possible UM visit: "I don't think I will."
Per the Det. News. Money quote is at the bottom:
January 23rd, 2015 at 10:12 AM ^
onward and upward.
January 23rd, 2015 at 11:29 AM ^
Sam Webb offered his take this morning and suggested the key to the Weber quote was his expressing doubt about taking an "official" visit. Sam intimated that while Weber might not take an official visit, an unofficial visit is still possible, if not more likely. Weber's from Detroit and his visited UofM numerous times. It's an easy trip so this by no means closes the door.
Also, if I remember correctly Urban Meyer threatened to pull Bri'Onte Dunn's offer when he planned to visit UofM a few years back. Weber may be defending against a similar situation with his public comments. Then again who knows. All recruiting is far from over.
EDIT: Didnt mean to step on anyone's toes if someone offered similiar information further down the thread. I didnt read the entire thread.
January 23rd, 2015 at 2:16 PM ^
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January 23rd, 2015 at 10:12 AM ^
than to drag it out. It was worth a try, but he'll learn his lesson in the next few years. Too bad for him, but best of luck I suppose.
January 23rd, 2015 at 10:21 AM ^
he's playing for the enemy. I wish him no luck.
January 23rd, 2015 at 10:51 AM ^
all the Michigan tease, I would hardly notice him heading for Cbus. Now it's "door meet ass" AFAIC. No "break a leg" or anything like that, just see you on Saturday.
January 23rd, 2015 at 10:28 AM ^
Not to be a debbie downer or anything but in the next two years osu has a much greater chance of playing for nationals championships. We are going to be pleased with a 10 win season, they are going to upset with anything other than a return to the playoff. Not to mention he just watched ezekiel elliot dominate behind an oline that is returning 4 starters. If you don't think that osu's situation over the next 3 years compares favorably to Michigan I don't know what to tell you.
Now if you are talking more than 2 years out once Harbaugh gets a class or two in and has remade the team than sure the future looks bright but I think Mike Weber is probably more interested in the next 2 years rather than the next 6.
January 23rd, 2015 at 10:37 AM ^
right now, "we've got ourselves a game, folks."
Eddie George went on to win the Heisman but not before Tim Biakabutuka ran for 314 yards and beat him.
Michigan could have beaten OSU the last two years had they had a play or two go there way and some competence on the coaching staff.
They may be in a better position to compete for NC's, but that doesn't mean we can't beat them.
and rest assured, I will be leading the chant come next November: "Should have been a wolverine!!!!"
January 23rd, 2015 at 10:38 AM ^
for OSU next year. There has only been one Michigan coach that lost to OSU in his first year.
I don't know what the rest of next season is going to look like, but I'm pretty confident that a Harbaugh coached Michigan is going to beat OSU in November.
January 23rd, 2015 at 10:55 AM ^
Are you kidding me? OSU is definitely going to be in the playoff, assuming the team remains healthy. What on Earth makes you think those bastards won't get there again?
January 23rd, 2015 at 1:49 PM ^
January 23rd, 2015 at 10:50 AM ^
January 23rd, 2015 at 11:52 AM ^
With OSU having secured a commitment from one of the top backs in the 2016 class already, and with Elliot ahead of him for another year or two--and others there also--Weber might consider extrapolating to 2016 et seq., and might conclude that (1) Michigan likely has a top notch OL by then, and (2) he will have a better chance at PT at Michigan than OSU.
January 23rd, 2015 at 1:11 PM ^
If you believe you are the best other commitments do not matter to you. Alabama brings in the top running backs in the country every year, doesn't stop people from commiting to them.
January 23rd, 2015 at 10:12 AM ^
It is so hard for a staff to pull in big time commits this late in the game. I think we are going to see mostly 3 star and sleeper types to finish out this class, with the execption of maybe Wheatley Jr.
January 23rd, 2015 at 10:27 AM ^
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January 23rd, 2015 at 10:30 AM ^
I never said otherwise. But I also think it is likelier that we miss on all of them instead of getting all three.
January 23rd, 2015 at 10:35 AM ^
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January 23rd, 2015 at 11:19 AM ^
and yes that would be awesome. I just think it is a majorly uphill battle starting so late in the process. Sorry for pumping the breaks on the Harbaugh express. Please resume the fanatical optimism!
January 23rd, 2015 at 10:57 AM ^
93Grad - you should not be concerned with one class that Harbaugh and his staff have had less than a month to complete. The most important recruit that we got is named Jim Harbaugh.
January 23rd, 2015 at 10:12 AM ^
Well "I dont think" is better than NO...amirite??
January 23rd, 2015 at 10:25 AM ^
There is no need for an official visit when he's just down the road.
Also he's unlikely to say much until it's done so he doesn't stir things up. i'm not saying it's happening. This just doesn't mean much.
January 23rd, 2015 at 10:54 AM ^
I wouldn't be surprised if he did or did not visit, but I'm a little over it and can't get excited about a kid that can't make up his mind. Unless he has made up his mind, in which case I'm not excited about that either...
January 23rd, 2015 at 10:13 AM ^
Best of luck, kid.
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January 23rd, 2015 at 10:24 AM ^
January 23rd, 2015 at 10:30 AM ^
Well then the Ivy league would return to football dominance and Stanford, Duke, and Northwestern would be powerhouses so this wouldn't really benefit Michigan either.
January 23rd, 2015 at 10:39 AM ^
January 23rd, 2015 at 10:59 AM ^
Eh, I would not say ANY college, but most, yes.
January 23rd, 2015 at 10:44 AM ^
The Michigan degree has a slight edge over OSU's. I'm fairly certain the Michigan Kinesiology degree doesn't hold any more water than does the OSU Kinesiology degree (or whatever it is that most football players are majoring in these days).
I'm sure many people (athletes or not) regret not taking school more seriously, but as satisfying as it would be, I don't think many with an OSU degree think 'if only I had a Michigan degree.' US News: Michigan 29th, OSU 54th. We're not exactly comparing an Ivy to a Tier 2 school here.
January 23rd, 2015 at 10:16 AM ^
That's not fantastic for us, but just because he isn't going to use an official to see M doesn't mean that we don't have a chance to flip him. He lives 45 min away. No need to use an official, and no need to enrage the bucktards (sorry I'm not sorry for that one)
January 23rd, 2015 at 10:18 AM ^
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January 23rd, 2015 at 10:21 AM ^
he just said no to a staff with how many years of NFL experience? And chose to stay with a staff that has how 0 years of NFL experience.
I would imagine in a prospects eyes, that would have to count for something.
January 23rd, 2015 at 10:26 AM ^
Why would it?
College coaches have experience in taking HS kids, winning a lot of CFB games with them, and developing them so they get drafted into the NFL.
NFL coaches have experience drafting college kids and then winning NFL games with them.
Wouldn't the college coaches who have been turning HS kids into drafted CFB players be more relevant to a HS kid than an NFL coach? It seems to be that college coaches are the ones with experience developing kids.
I doubt it plays a huge role either way, but I don't see the advantage the NFL coaches have in this instance.
January 23rd, 2015 at 11:10 AM ^
I'm honestly not sure. My thoughts are that an NFL coach would be able to mold kids into what they WANT them to be in the NFL. I'd probably side with the NFL coaches being better at that, but I'm not exactly adamant about it. Plus, a good portion of the NFL guys were NCAA guys who were good at doing the NCAA thing and got called up to the major league.
January 23rd, 2015 at 11:29 AM ^
things:
who has Urban Meyer successfully put in the NFL? Aaron Hernandez? Tim Tebow? That kid from the eagles who vowed to fight every (N-word) at a country music concert?
Troy Smith won a Heisman trophy and look how far he got.
No Ohio State quarterback has ever played in a super bowl.
It's like Cardale Jones said, they ain't come to play school. . . which I believe is true, but did they come to play so that Ohio State could win National championships? Or be able to compete at the next level????
January 23rd, 2015 at 11:55 AM ^
Alex Smith isn't to bad
January 23rd, 2015 at 3:59 PM ^
or Urban?
January 23rd, 2015 at 12:33 PM ^
Do you think the Michigan coaches made Tom Brady the NFL player that he is or do you think Tom Brady deserves most of the credit (along with BB)?
The Michigan coaches coached Brady up to be a 6th round draft pick. Would you assign his success in the NFL to Michigan, or to his development since then?
By my count, Urban put 16 players into the first 3 rounds of the NFL draft from 2006-2011. At OSU, he has put 5 players (not his recruits, whether you want to count that for or against him) into the first 3 rounds in 2 years.
Urban took a 2 star QB in Alex Smith and turned him into the #1 overall pick and he's still a starter 10 years later.
Success in the NFL is very much dependent upon the player and being lucky enough to land in a good organization.
College coaches can develop players into highly regarded prospects who get drafted into the NFL and get paid. Once there, what more can a college coach do?
For what it is worth, OSU has 3 rookie OL who were drafted last year and are now starters. They have a WR starting for the Panthers, a CB starting for the Broncos, a LB starting for the Steelers, and a RB splitting time with Frank Gore, all from last year's draft class.
Trying to point out that past OSU coaches have not developed draftable QBs doesn't seem very relevant to Urban.
If you are trying to say that Urban doesn't develop NFL talent, then the numbers don't seem to back you up on that.
January 23rd, 2015 at 1:32 PM ^
Tom Brady would not be where he is today if he had not gone to Michigan. He said that, "Greg Harden has and will always be one of the most influential people in my life".
Desmond Howard said, "I dont know if I win the Heisman if Greg isn't at Michigan".
http://www.thepostgame.com/features/201101/tom-bradys-guru
January 23rd, 2015 at 2:50 PM ^
in the first paragraph you imply michigan had nothing to do with Tom Brady's success in the NFL then in the last paragraph you claim urban meyer develops NFL talent. So which is it college coaches develop talent for the next level or not? How about this Meyer has no-zero-zip NFL experience contrasted to Michigan's head coach & staff that not only has experience at that level but knows what it takes to win at level. Who would rather play for if you want to get to the NFL, experienced coaches or a coach with a big ego that overshadows the players. Buckeyes won't have the underdog label next year and with expectations sky high it's going to be difficult to repeat. I see a lot of player squabbling and problems keeping people happy. Agreed Michigan's a couple years away but then if you love the buckeyes so much what are you doing here?! Go back to c-bus and get a tattoo
January 23rd, 2015 at 3:44 PM ^
My point is that a college coach wants to develop his players into high draft picks (I picked 1-3 rounds but that could be debated). Teams pay good money to these picks and want to ensure they succeed.
I pointed out that Michigan did not develop Tom Brady into a desirable draft pick. If they did, he wouldn't have gone in the 6th round. Does the fact that he became a much better QB in the NFL than college serve as a compliment to his college coaching?
Recruits want to be turned into high draft picks, not draft sleepers who pan out a low percentage of the time. If a coach is producing lots of high draft picks, they are doing a good job at the college level. Once the players get to the NFL and get nice contracts, it really is up to them to put in the work to determine if they are going to be decent or great.
The last half of your paragraph has really nothing to do with my previous post.
January 23rd, 2015 at 5:45 PM ^
it's better to be a high draft pick and appear to be NFL ready but not really have the capability to be successful and flame out in 2-3 years, than be coached well have the ability to sustain a 15 year or more NFL career as Brady and Harbaugh have done. Yeah ok I see your point.
January 23rd, 2015 at 6:49 PM ^
Your example is the exception rather than the rule. Of course you would rather be Tom Brady rather than Jamarcus Russell, but, in the long run, you would rather be a 1st round pick instead of a 6th round pick.
It's a similar argument that fans make every year about recruiting. Ah, recruiting isn't that big of a deal because great player XYZ was only a 2 star but that 5 star was a bust. Sure, you can always pick out exceptions, but, looking at the large picture, your team has a better chance of winning with 5 stars rather than 2 stars.
This discussion has taken a strange turn anyway. The NFL careers of Troy Smith and Tom Brady have no real relevance to whether a recruit wants to be coached by Urban Meyer or Jim Harbaugh. The fact that this was prompted by a RB recruit makes it even less relevant.
January 24th, 2015 at 12:35 PM ^
the most overused word these days relevant to college sports. Everything is relevant darlin when it comes to AA vs c-bus. Heres whats relevant, why are you, an obvious buckeye, bothering to respond on a Michigan blog more often than diehard M alums or AA residents (oh yeah and walmart wolverines too-haha kidding here)? Are you that worried about whats happening here? How about this for relevant-the new M coaches have been recruiting now for about 2 weeks and are left with only flipping kids at this point-so whether they get a kid now or not is irrelevant, next year will be a totally different experience. How about this for relevance-if I was a buckeye fan I would be worried that Meyer only stays another year with this group goes as far as he can with them then jumps to the NFL as offers are pouring in. He is relatively young and what else is there for him to prove at the college level? Yeah you heard me! Its happenin...
So take that c-bus troll with a new tattoo.
January 24th, 2015 at 12:36 AM ^
I don't think kids care I think they just want to have a shot. Clearly first-round would be better but they'd take a practice squad spot over folding pants at JCPenney's
January 23rd, 2015 at 4:04 PM ^
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