Middle class abandoning football

Submitted by LLG on

Makes me wonder about how college football changes also.  Any thoughts?

Death of NFL inevitable as middle class abandons the game

"You really think the NFL is worried about young athletes? If so, they'd have changed the rules years ago, abandoning face masks, enlarging the ball to make it difficult to throw, switching to one platoon football."

I didn't know about one platoon football before (or the phrase).  Some research pulled up this article about Fritz Crisler:  The Man Who Changed Football

Sports Illustrated article starts:  "When the NCAA Rules Committee voted a return to two-platoon football last month, one of the least surprised men in the country—and one of the most pleased—was Fritz Crisler, athletic director of the University of Michigan. Crisler is a life member of the Rules Committee."

Maynard

September 8th, 2017 at 5:22 PM ^

Viewership is suffering but it's a gradual process. The sport peaked and is on the way back down, albeit slowly. As someone who was a diehard for so many years I can honestly say I think the product blows now and I don't change any plans on a Sunday for it anymore. Also, I don't want my kid playing it as I have many issues with my spine that the doctors liken to multiple car accidents. Once told I played almost a decade of football, they just nodded and said there ya go. 

We love football. College football to me is the best thing ever. But it's popularity as a sport is changing and it doesn't even take numbers to know that. When schools are having a hard time fielding teams where in the past they would have to make cuts, it's pretty obvious it's happening.

OwenGoBlue

September 8th, 2017 at 2:54 PM ^

I doubt football "dies" in our lifetimes but it has seen its peak. Lower participation rates will hurt the game, as will further revelations of the brain trauma it causes. Less importantly the broadcast money is set to dry up a bit from market forces alone. I played and I love the sport. I still can't help but feel conflicted as a fan, particularly as the trend shifts to largely poorer kids being the ones to play and suffer later in life so that we can be entertained today.

robpollard

September 8th, 2017 at 2:58 PM ^

The guy is a mouth breather, psuedu-tough guy who talks "Chicago" tough while living in the leafy suburbs. He's a wannabe Mike Royko (for old-timers who might know who that is).

To get to the "substance" of the article, it provides no stats or studies, just his thoughts as a "soccer dad" who hates football, and talking to one guy in the suburbs who runs a 4th grade tackle league.

My strong guess is pee-wee and Pop Warner football *is* endangered, as the studies say to limit tackling & collisions at least until at least high school (and even after that, severely limit tackling in practice). But for football as a whole, there are now huge amounts of kids (i.e., 5-14) playing flag football -- that basically didn't exist about 10 years ago. Just look at all the teams in SE Michigan (and this is just one organization).

http://www.michiganyouthflagfootball.com/Default.aspx?tabid=181868

Now I don't know how many of these kids will transition to tackle football. Most won't. But it keeps them interested in the NFL, as every kid gets an NFL team jersey. And in an era where UFC fighting has become basically a major sport, and it's as violent as anything, to say we're facing the "Death of NFL" is downright stupid.

robpollard

September 8th, 2017 at 3:21 PM ^

...about the Trib and Kass. The fact they've stuck with him so long is a small window into how poorly run they are.

The Trib was legitimately a very good (if not great) paper through about the late '90s/early '00s -- their international coverage was so-so, but their local & cultural coverage was great. But they had absolutely zero idea how to handle the oncoming internet and bad hires like Kass didn't help. That doesn't make them much different than anyone else, but I could easily argue the Det News or Freep are now as good (or as bad, depending how you look at it) as the Tribune, and there is no way I would have remotely said that 15 years ago.

Heptarch

September 8th, 2017 at 2:56 PM ^

Football won't die as long as there are people willing to pay to watch it and others willing to beat their bodies up in order to get paid. Which means that it will never die.

AZ_blue

September 8th, 2017 at 3:00 PM ^

You could also make the argument that football has the potential to, and probably will, grow in global popularity. This will likely offset any national decline. 

M Ascending

September 8th, 2017 at 3:03 PM ^

I hear that in SEC country they start them in full contact football at age 3; hence the superior athletic ability and substantially lesser brain power on SEC rosters.

Zeke21

September 8th, 2017 at 3:05 PM ^

NFL. and i grew up on it for 40 years. Commercials, replays, celebrations, announcers, refs, UNWATCHABLE.  I suppose people watch if they bet the game or do fantasy football. Otherwise, I say that league is gone in 20 years.

AFWolverine

September 8th, 2017 at 3:38 PM ^

If that's the future, then NCAA football disappears with it. I don't think many kids strive for excellence through high schoool so they can get a full ride to a D1 school just to go to the CFL or nothing at all.

FreddieMercuryHayes

September 8th, 2017 at 4:02 PM ^

What does the data say?  You assume that heading a ball going 30 mph will cause CTE, but the scientific process requires you test that hypothesis.  So what does data say about soccer?  Does it cause CTE?  More than football?  Less than football?  And 'every sport has risk' isn't a justification.  The key question is 'how much risk', and have that widely available to all people from parents to professionals so they can make the best, most informed decisions.

The Man Down T…

September 8th, 2017 at 7:24 PM ^

Headers are a key part of passing, intercepting and scoring.  Anytime the ball is in the air over people's heads there will more likely than not be a header.  Goal kicks and corner kicks almost always result in high speed headers.  Ditto drop kicks by the goalie.  

 

Source:  played and coached for years

 

 

Bodogblog

September 8th, 2017 at 7:33 PM ^

Yes but it's practiced constantly. Remember all those games to see how many times you can bounce it off your head and keep it in the air? That's repeated blows to the head. At much lower intensity than football, but many multiples more frequency. Is that bad? In today's environment you'd have to label that a material risk.

jmblue

September 8th, 2017 at 3:15 PM ^

Why would making footballs harder to throw improve safety?   IIRC, the forward pass was legalized in part as a safety measure, to open up the game from the constant scrums it had been before.  

rainingmaize

September 8th, 2017 at 4:11 PM ^

The only way soccer overtakes football in the US is if the MLS becomes the dominate soccer league in the world, and I doubt it will ever come close to topping the premier league or Bundesliga. The best athletes in football, basketball, baseball, and hockey all come to the US to play for a local team that a community to get behind. Waking up super early to watch a team based halfway across the world doesn't have as much appeal.

cletus318

September 8th, 2017 at 3:17 PM ^

While participation is dropping, there's almost certainly going to be enough people willing to risk potential issues on the back end for the possibility of life-changing money. Interestingly, soccer participation is booming despite its very own serious concussion issues.

Brodie

September 8th, 2017 at 3:41 PM ^

What happens, seriously, when the changing way content is delivered means the money dries up? We are probably in the final years here, whether it's the final 10 or the final 20, of the TV rights contract as they currently exist. That is maybe one more generation to be attracted by the promise of obscene money to play a dangerous game. 

Soccer does have CTE links, but the way forward for it is much easier as banning the header would be far simplie than any change needed to football. 

cletus318

September 8th, 2017 at 3:57 PM ^

The money will always follow the medium. In the same way television supplanted radio, streaming will eventually supplant cable and the advertising dollars will follow, no different from the several ads you can view on this very site. As long as eyeballs are watching, there will be a way to monetize it. Regarding soccer, it's unclear at this point how much eliminating headers will help given that most concussions are due to player-player contact. Ultimately, any sport that involves some level of players running into each other is going to carry significant concussion risk, and there will likely be no quick fixes.

cletus318

September 8th, 2017 at 7:21 PM ^

That's a presumption with no supporting evidence. Soccer is a physical sport, there's always going to be the types or contact that can lead to concussive and subconcussive impacts. Don't get me wrong, I'd be the first to agree that headers should be eliminated for children, for no other reason that a lack of technical proficiency that can increase the likelihood of injury, but the change isn't some panacea.

markusr2007

September 8th, 2017 at 3:22 PM ^

has more to do with the political statement-making and ridiculous levels of conventional and social media-fuelled righteous indignation, attention-seeking and validation. Lacking any drama the media will create it for themselves to feed on for days and weeks.

The fact that football fans are fatigued by this is woefully understated.

It's become noxious, and just doesn't belong in the game.

ESPN's prolific crash and burn, and that of the NFL are highly correlated. They both suck.

As for NFL football, yeah, holy crap who would have thought? Turns out fewer and fewer people wants to watch run, run, pass, punt and sissy-sliding quarterbacks sprinkled in between 2 hours of stupid corporate commercial breaks and 1998-style Fox Graphics.

They forget that all that's required is a camera, sound and a compelling, colorful voice or two  to witness and share the excitement. 

 

 

Anchew

September 8th, 2017 at 3:23 PM ^

where i live in hudsonville, mi is growing. there are between 6 and 7 teams in each age group. that number is up from just a couple years ago.

AmayzNblue

September 8th, 2017 at 3:57 PM ^

Is what I wonder as well. So, the author interviewed one coach from one youth program. So what? What if that coach's league is dying because of 1. Population decline in the local community or 2. Another league started nearby and people are moving their kids over.

My son has been on 3 travel soccer teams in the past 2 years. That is not because we're griping parents who are dissatisfied with a coach, but the teams could not maintain enough players to compete, so they collectively imploded. No fault of the coach or parents or some worrisome decline in the sport, but....crap happens. I suspect this league the author interviewed is probably becoming the "loser" league in the community that parents are no longer interested in.

robpollard

September 8th, 2017 at 3:25 PM ^

If you scratch the surface just a little bit with the author of the piece, you'll realize that (along with a general antipathy towards football) is what this column is about, rather than any well-reasoned or well-researched piece on the trajectory of tackle football and the NFL.

UM Griff

September 8th, 2017 at 4:43 PM ^

Stating " I told you so four years ago" with very little data to back up his claims. Like many here, I am not fond of the NFL and despise Roger Goddell, but college football is so great. The pageantry, the coaches, the players giving their all - not going away anytime soon.

Blue Vet

September 8th, 2017 at 3:41 PM ^

Though I love football, I also believe that it is fading. I may be wrong; time will tell, regardless of personal anecdotes, examples from the small data set of a few years, fondness, or even angry words.

But right or wrong, I'm more interested here why the posted article & topic generated so much anger.

AmayzNblue

September 8th, 2017 at 3:52 PM ^

I have not read all the comments but you can see mine above. I am not angry about defending football, but I think anyone who actually read this article could see the author is rather self-promoting and full of himself. I become more irritated with people who like to show up to a party and claim they started it. Maybe that's where the frustration is coming from.

I am also curious about the data in high school sports as many kids don't pick football up until then. Youth programs are not always indicative of future health of a sport, unless someone has data to prove otherwise. As long as players are making $$$ in the NFL and as long as poverty still exists, there will be families making sacrifices to gamble on their talented children to make a run at the NFL. That motivation will keep kids playing in HS and College. Just my theory, I guess.