Michigan #9 in Preseason Coaches Poll

Submitted by smwilliams on August 3rd, 2017 at 12:20 PM


Other Big 10 Teams:

Ohio State - #2

Penn State - #6

Wisconsin - #10

ND, Northwestern, Nebraska are all receiving votes. 



Chalky White

August 3rd, 2017 at 2:30 PM ^

This may be the only poll where they actually pay attention. During the season, I don't understand how they can give an honest assessment about other teams in the country when they spend the entire week preparing for their own games. They spend Saturday coaching their own games. When do they watch the other teams? That's why they refer to it as the SID poll. If they form a poll by reading box scores or watching 45 seconds of highlights on ESPN, that says anyone can do it.


August 3rd, 2017 at 3:18 PM ^

It says random draw from a pool of coaches who said they were "willing to participate."

Which means:


  1. Harbaugh is willing but didn't get his name drawn; or
  2. He isn't willing to participate.


I'd think it would be a competitive advantage to participate, since there is (albeit small) amount of impact that the poll has on the final rankings.  It's only one metric, but it is used I believe.


OTOH, I could see Harbaugh saying "no thanks" to participating for the exact reasons critics don't like the poll--there's no way these coaches can actually watch all the games & give educated opinions on this stuff week in & week out.  I could easily see Harbaugh adopt the attitude of--if he can't do it 100% solid/all the way, he doesn't want to do it at all.


August 3rd, 2017 at 12:25 PM ^

Nebraska is my darkhorse pick this year. They return pretty much their whole OL, and replace Tommy Armstrong Jr. with a seasoned player in transfer Tanner Lee. Plus, they massively upgrade with former ND DC and UConn HC Bob Diaco. Plus they have really improved their skill position recruiting in the last 2 cycles.


August 3rd, 2017 at 12:28 PM ^

Not sure how great Diaco is anymore. Also, Nebraska got a lot of luck last year to swing eight wins (the previous year the luck had run the other.)

I expect it'll take some more luck to get back to eight wins this year. This is probably a 6-6ish team IMO.


August 3rd, 2017 at 1:35 PM ^

I agree Nebraska has a shot but would be more bullish if Wisconsin wasn't missing both OSU and PSU this year. 

Will be interesting to see how Riley fits there long-term. Those fans have a very specific way they like their team to play on offense and coaches have been fighting off that faction since Solich was fired. 


August 3rd, 2017 at 12:31 PM ^

I dislike those fuckers as much as anybody here but it justs odd to me that EVERYBODY thinks they're going to be pretty good except us.  Every poll I've seen has them ranked above us, every preview publication thinks they'll finish ahead of us in the B1G East and the experts at Athlon were all in agreement in predicting we'd lose there this year.

Not saying they're all right and we're all wrong but the fact that "everyone" seems to think they'll be pretty good this year ought to at least give us pause and consider they just might be.

Crazy talk I know when we all think they suck but just for arguement's sake we might want to consider that everyone else might not be wrong.


August 3rd, 2017 at 12:39 PM ^

seems to have made an impression on people, but I'm with you. They were a completely different team at the end of the season compared to the one we destroyed. And Michigan was playing pretty good football last season.


August 3rd, 2017 at 1:01 PM ^

Penn State reminds me of Wisconsin in the late 90's.  They won a B1G title and they won a Rose Bowl (Wisky....not PSU).....but they never beat Michigan and Ron Dayne (or Barkley in this case) never rushed for 100 against Michigan.



August 3rd, 2017 at 1:38 PM ^

Not every team to lose a game badly is a bad team. It's basically as simple as that.

If you're forming your opinion based on one game then you just have a shitty opinion. Wisconsin had good teams in the late 90s. Ron Dayne was a good running back. Penn State had a good team last year. Saquon Barkley is a good running back.

MI Expat NY

August 3rd, 2017 at 1:21 PM ^

They were certainly better at the end of last season than when we played them, but i'm not sure it accounts for the difference between a #6 rating and what we saw in the 49-10 game.   First of all, much of the perception of Penn State as a top 10 team comes from winning the Big Ten and a loss in a "great" game vs. USC (exciting game, yes, great game? I don't know...).  If they lose the Ohio State game, as they should have, or Barrett get's marked down an inch short of the line to make, as he should have, then Penn State doesn't get either opportunity.

Second, their run at the end was greatly padded by an easier schedule.  Their last five regular season games were against Purdue, Iowa, Indiana, Rutgers, and a dead inside MSU.  They were tied at the half or trailed against Purdue, Indiana, and MSU.  They only truly looked impressive against Iowa.  

I don't think they were as bad as we thought after about week 5 (an escape at home against Minnesota), but I don't think they were as good as people thought after the Rose Bowl, either.  The first half of the season doesn't just completely disappear.  I think they're a top 15ish team headed into the season.  Capable of beating anybody on their schedule.  I will also be very surprised if they repeat as division champions.  

Ghost of Fritz…

August 3rd, 2017 at 1:29 PM ^

1.  Bears repeating b/c many have forgotten:  Penn State would have lost to OSU last year but for some really terrible officiating. 

2.  OTOH, Penn State again has a very weak OOC schedule (like always since forever), so they probably will be undefeated when M rolls into town.

3. After seeing how USC let Penn State back in the game at the Rose Bowl, hopefully M will spend TONS of time coaching the DBs how to defend against jump ball scenarios.  Man I have so many terrible flashbacks of M DBs not turning around and/or just missing the PBU on pooorly thrown jump ball passes during the RR and Hoke eras.