MGoFilm Analysis Ep. 4.2 || Penalties on Michigan

Submitted by FanNamedOzzy on October 19th, 2017 at 5:15 PM

Hey guys. Another installment of the MGoAnalysis here! Yesterday I posted a video of all of Indiana’s penalties and quite a few missed calls. There was some great discussion in the comments and some lessons learned. A quick update to some of the plays there:

  • Play #5 - Fant DPI against McDoom - Lots of responses on this one. I likely should have given this a “questionable” since I think there are strong arguments both ways. It technically is DPI, I think I gave it a “Bad” since there are lots of plays like these that don’t get called.
  • Play #10 - Block below the waist against McCray - I called this a missed call, but it’s a valid no-call. Didn’t realize that it’s only illegal if it’s from the side or the back.
  • Missed Play #1 - Punt return / block in back against Glasgow - clear missed penalty, just forgot to include it in the video.
  • Missed Play #2 - Hold against Gary on long IU run - debatable, but should have included it as a questionably missed penalty.

I’ll be covering all of those in a third and final wrap-up video I’m working on now.

Moving on to part 2 of this week's analysis - Michigan's penalties:

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So...yeah, that was ugly. Michigan had plenty of valid penalties, but was seemingly called for every possible penalty, which cannot be said for Indiana. Frustrating both at the lack of discipline from Michigan and the number of questionable / bad calls from the refs.

Here are a couple modifications I made to my format from the comments on the last installment of the MGoAnalysis:

  1. Color of graphics on bottom left - Changed it to a more muted palette overall to make it a bit easier on the eyes.
  2. Removed ALL CAPS - I used all caps before in my past videos in my notes. The suggestion would that it would be easier to read.
  3. Text Color Change - I used to use a milky white for all my text, but switched to maize this time around to try to make it a bit easier to read.

Let me know what you think of these changes and if you liked the change or would prefer if I reverted to the styling of last video. As always, if you have more suggestions, I'm always willing to consider them.

I'll be doing a final "clean up" video where I include plays I missed initially and any close calls (onside kick, etc). Let me know if there are any specific plays of that nature you'd like me to take a look at.

Finally (sorry for the long post) thanks to everyone who subscribed. The MGoFish YouTube channel is now just a few under 1,000 subscriptions! If you enjoy this series and haven't subscribed, please consider doing so!



October 19th, 2017 at 6:07 PM ^

Would that qualify as "intent to deceive"?



RE: the video, sadly, it looks like most of those calls were legit. I even think the Cheesman hold and HIll's hold on his interception were correct. Throw in the uncalled block in the back on Higdon's TD run and I really don't feel like we can complain about the officiating too much. UM just played a REALLY sloppy game.





Goggles Paisano

October 19th, 2017 at 6:09 PM ^

Either that or tag that dude with the false start.  It was absolutely "intent to deceive" but I don't even know how to objectively call that penalty.  The basic approach to most offenses is to deceive.  But yeah, that 2015 call was horseshit and I think the only time I have ever seen it called.  

Goggles Paisano

October 19th, 2017 at 6:05 PM ^

I don't agree on the DPJ hold but I can see why it got called.  The defender was the one doing the holding and straight picked him up off the ground.  In doing so, DPJ ended up with his arms around the defender while he was just trying to maintain his balance in an upright position.  I'm not really mad about that one.  

We all bitched this week about the Hurst QB plant.  While it was a horrible call, I think many of us (I know I did)  overlooked the other two penalties called on the play.  Best case should have been just an offsides penalty.

The Cheeseman hold was 100% horseshit.    

While I would have loved to see this done for the OSU game last year and the 2015 MSU game, if you went and did it, not sure I would want to watch it and re-live that pain.  

Again, this is a really cool thing you are doing and doing it in a really cool way.  

Hail Harbo

October 19th, 2017 at 11:27 PM ^

Not called on that play is that Hurst made contact with the center.  If we're grading the refs, grade them an F for failing to notice contact with the center.  Why is that a big deal?  Because it is a dead ball foul which kills the play.  Therefore no live ball foul can be called because, the ball was never live.

Thank you, Dan Dierdorf, for pointing that out.

Red is Blue

October 19th, 2017 at 7:10 PM ^

I meant the one where Gary was held. Admittedly it was ambiguously worded, but I was hoping it was clear from the context reference to the UFR. I realize it was in the other episode, but the post referenced several other much talked about penalties from that episode and I thought he might want to add that one to the list.

kevin holt

October 19th, 2017 at 6:51 PM ^

When you do the final video please keep in mind the intentional grounding penalty which is not what people have been saying:

ARTICLE 2. A forward pass is illegal if: 

f. The passer to conserve time throws the ball directly to the ground (1) after the ball has already touched the ground; or (2) not immediately after controlling the ball.
g. The passer to conserve time throws the ball forward into an area where there is no eligible Team A receiver (A.R. 7-3-2-II-VII).
h. The passer to conserve yardage throws the ball forward into an area where there is no eligible Team A receiver (A.R. 7-3-2-I).
[Exception: It is not a foul if the passer is or has been outside the tackle box and throws the ball so that it crosses or lands beyond the neutral zone or neutral zone extended (Rule 2-19-3) (A.R. 7-3-2-VIII-X). This applies only to the player who controls the snap or the resulting backward pass and retains possession before throwing the forward pass.]