Meta: comment point bug

Submitted by go16blue on May 3rd, 2011 at 10:39 AM
Ever since the new comment system was implemented, all of my comments start with a default of 2 points (and i think this is true of some other users, as well). Its not a really big deal, but its definitely a bug. Has anyone else noticed this?

Comments

GunnersApe

May 3rd, 2011 at 10:48 AM ^

Somtimes I get one, others two. I don't really give a rusty fuck but here's a test on my one.

EDIT: Maybe Skynet did become self aware and is messing with the point system. Also test confirms 1 point, God hates me.

JBE

May 3rd, 2011 at 10:44 AM ^

It's Karma.  You have two Karma.  The more you post, the higher the point total or something.  Go to your profile and take a look.

lakeside

May 3rd, 2011 at 10:47 AM ^

From Drupal's User Karma module page:

How does karma work?

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So, if user 99 for example writes 10 comments, and they all get votes > 0, the person's karma will stay positive. Vice versa, if user 98 has 10 comments and they are all flamebaits which get votes < 0, the person's karma will be negative. This assumes that rating can be < 0.

Now... some modules work differently, and only allow positive voting (for example rating from 1 to 10 etc.). This module will work in those cases too: since karma expires (meaning that only content newer than N days will be considered for karma), the users' karma will eventually stabilise.

Zone Left

May 3rd, 2011 at 11:18 PM ^

You can set your threshold to -1, which appears to be the lowest that comments can go, and you'll see everything.

Personally, I'm indifferent to this system, because I don't really care about the individual comments. I liked the points system because users could minimize the impact of bad posters by negging them so low that they could never create content. A user with 100 flamebait posts still gets to create a flamebait thread after 100 shitty comments.

MAgoBLUE

May 3rd, 2011 at 11:01 AM ^

One thing I've noticed is that when I try to click on a post that has been minimized by a negative vote the thread will refresh and I will end up back at the original post.  It's frustrating because all it takes is one negative vote for a comment to be lost forever to me.  I want to make up my own mind about whether a comment is worth reading or not.

MAgoBLUE

May 3rd, 2011 at 2:52 PM ^

I'm using Firefox.  Not sure what version.  FWIW, it only seems to happen when I am not on the first page of a multiple page thread.  On the first page it seems like I can expand collapsed comments fine.

bluebyyou

May 3rd, 2011 at 11:14 AM ^

Any combination of "Tressel" or "that school in Ohio" and an obscenity should automatically qualify for the maximum number of points, right?

dahblue

May 3rd, 2011 at 11:33 AM ^

Didn't know about the "karma" thing.  I've found that my posts all start from zero and I don't have the ability to up/down vote any comments.  I thought that anyone above 100 points could vote?

Also, I used to view comments from newest to oldest, but now the newest comments are down on the bottom.  Anyone know how to fix that?

Brian

May 3rd, 2011 at 12:23 PM ^

As mentioned, this is a feature: people who post generally good stuff start off higher and people with generally bad stuff start off at 0 or worse.

I'm not sure what's up with the refresh bug. People experiencing it should send me an email detailing their browser and what happens.

dahblue

May 3rd, 2011 at 12:44 PM ^

It might be that you (and the majority here) will find this new system to work very well.  I could be in the extreme minority, but new system seems (to me) to silence those who have not shared the majority view.  I am labeled "flamebait" for asking a question about formatting comments?  There isn't much "flame" involved in asking how to view new comments on the top of the page.

Anyway, I'm sure there are lots of small changes to work out in a new system, but my 2 cents (clearly not worth enough to vote here anymore) says that the new system is overly complicated and unnecessarily silences those who don't share the majority view.

Hail-Storm

May 3rd, 2011 at 1:23 PM ^

between people with different views, and people who are assholes. I can have a decent conversation with people with different views, but not with assholes. Maybe if you tone down the rhetoric, read what people actually write, respond with your views (different or same), and stop playing a victim, you won't get the flamebait tag as much.

Dark Blue

May 3rd, 2011 at 1:27 PM ^

Maybe if you tone down the rhetoric, read what people actually write, respond with your views (different or same), and stop playing a victim, you won't get the flamebait tag as much.

Have you ever thought that maybe he doesn't know how to read or write? Maybe he's blind. Take that mr. smarty pants.

dahblue

May 3rd, 2011 at 5:57 PM ^

You realize that you are telling me to "tone down the rhetoric" and calling me an "asshole" at the same time, right?  Whatever you say, guy.  I'll post simple things like, "How do I get comments to order newest to oldest" and you can call me an asshole.  It's a fun process. 

Well...on the plus side, it seems I am able to moderate again.

Hail-Storm

May 3rd, 2011 at 7:22 PM ^

I implied you are an asshole. I like how you cherry pick the most innocent comment on here you've made (which wasn't even in the comment I replied to) and use that as an indication of your type of posts. 

My post was a response to your post where you think that the only reason people don't like your posts is because you provide a different view.  I responded that this is not why. I was refering to your other posts like when you took a comment http://mgoblog.com/comment/reply/54373/1061309 I said and tried make up a bunch of other stuff like I don't like Hoke.  Those type of actions are what people don't like.

Again though, keep trying to play the poor me victim.  

Everyone Murders

May 3rd, 2011 at 1:37 PM ^

The whole point system is a mystery to me, but I once got a "Flamebait" label for asking whether the Big 10 had any independent power to punish Tressel or OSU for the recent unpleasantness.  Seemed like a legit question then, and it didn't draw any stupid replies, so I was/am confused by it the comment drawing a "Flamebait" tag.

Of course I'm pretty easy to confuse.

Waters Demos

May 3rd, 2011 at 1:44 PM ^

It's probably because there is someone who doesn't like you or a comment you made in the past, and, regardless of what you say and how insightful it is, they're going to downvote you. 

Ad hominem negs = ubiquitous.  But at least under the old point system, such negs didn't have the effect of collapsing your comment and labeling it "trolling," or "flamebait," etc...