Mattison's defense of Hoke
Per all the twitters, Mattison apparently gave a pretty passionate defense of Hoke in his presser:
Kyle Bogenschutz@KyleBogie2h2 hours ago
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Greg Mattison on why Brady Hoke is man for job: Mattison says graduation rate is "the most important thing. We're in college, not the NFL."
I have always thought highly of GMAT, but I personally find these comments to be over the top, and a blatant attempt to appeal to Schlissel's stated academic concerns. Now I do think that graduation rates and the like are very important. But, at the same time, so is actually playing good football. If we only care about graduation rates, then we don't need to pay Hoke $4 million and Mattison and Nuss almost $1 million each. We can have a staff of professors and guidance counsellors who know enough about football to coach, and treat it like a club sport. to quote Brian, "cumong, man!!"
side note: If we are going to talk about all of the molding of men that Hoke is doing, we should at a minimum mention Frank Clark I, Frank Clark II, C'sonte York, the handling of Gibbons, Lewan's fight, Hagurup's issues, Stonum's 2nd DUI and a host of other off the field crap relating to this team. Not saying that this is all Hoke's fault or that it is uncommon, but if you want to take credit for the good, then you need to share in the negatives, as well.
Also, there's this:
angelique retweeted
Mattison: "Why should [Hoke] be here? Because he's a winner. He's won everywhere he's been. What's the timetable?"
Not sure if Mattison knows this but prior to coming to Michigan, Hoke had a sub-.500 winning percentage. Also, there are a lot of people who have won at other, lower-tiered levels of competition (many of whom could also focus on graduating their players), but that doesn't make them qualified to coach at Michigan.
By the way, I know of another coach who "won everywhere he's been" before coming to Michigan (and apparently since) and that standard - coupled with a record that improved each year - didn't exactly save him.
I know that GMAT is Hoke's close friend, and that he is supposed to defend him, but this is just crap.
November 24th, 2014 at 3:19 PM ^
Stop talking about the football team at all, you muggles!
/s
November 24th, 2014 at 3:36 PM ^
your avatar makes this comment infinitely better. kudos.
November 24th, 2014 at 4:09 PM ^
I agree. Who even really cared about wins and losses anyway? they are just statistics
/s because obvious
November 24th, 2014 at 4:09 PM ^
I agree. Who even really cared about wins and losses anyway? they are just statistics
/s because obvious
November 24th, 2014 at 3:19 PM ^
People will have their friend's back, more often than not, when they're up against it. Right or wrong. There's really nothing that much more complicated than that.
November 24th, 2014 at 3:21 PM ^
Even some of the worst people out there have their friends and supporters. Not saying that in regards to Hoke at all, just that some will stick up for friends no matter what the circumstances.
November 24th, 2014 at 3:44 PM ^
Nope, not me. My friend starting sucking at beer pong and I was the first to throw him under the bus and get a new teammate. Now, I'm unstoppable.
November 24th, 2014 at 4:54 PM ^
I'd sell out my best friend for a 20 piece Chicken McNugget and a gallon of chocolate milk.
November 24th, 2014 at 3:20 PM ^
Formatting...head...asplode
November 24th, 2014 at 3:21 PM ^
November 24th, 2014 at 3:22 PM ^
From Angelique:
When asked to evaluate his program the last four years, Hoke deferred.
"I think I could, but I don't know if I will right here," Hoke said. "I don't think this is the right place for it.
"We'll have another press conference, I've got a feeling, sometime here."
They all know.
November 24th, 2014 at 3:33 PM ^
I have the same feeling: another press conference, sometime here.
I like Hoke. He seems like a great guy. Loves Michigan. Loves his players. The problem, as you all know, is that he's just not succeeding at Michigan.
November 24th, 2014 at 3:35 PM ^
Oops.
November 24th, 2014 at 3:22 PM ^
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November 24th, 2014 at 8:05 PM ^
Thank you. If anyone actually believes this defense is even close to being an elite defense they are so sadly mistaken.
November 24th, 2014 at 3:23 PM ^
I swear to fucking God it seems more and more each day that the ONLY people who give two shits about the record of the football team are the fans. Everybody else - players, ex-players, coaches, ex-coaches - seem to think wins and losses are just not that important in the grand scheme of things.
November 24th, 2014 at 3:26 PM ^
November 24th, 2014 at 3:30 PM ^
Thats cuz wins and losses are like, just a stat, man.
November 24th, 2014 at 3:31 PM ^
my bad
November 24th, 2014 at 3:46 PM ^
Never have to apologize for a double-dose of Lebowski, my friend.
November 24th, 2014 at 3:55 PM ^
You are spot on, even DF said that those are just statistics! Graduation rates are important, but I highly doubt that Mattison and Freddy Jackson etc., are helping the kids with their history papers, psychology mid-terms and chemistry finals other than making sure they get to class and get tutoring of they need it, and by the way are graduating RR's kids. I wish they were more organized to better coach up these kids so that their on-field performance matched their off-field classroom performance.
November 24th, 2014 at 3:24 PM ^
This is why I thought there may be something positive to giving Hoke the Earle Bruce treatment. It's a distraction at this point. Most know that Hoke is gone, but some won't admit it, don't realize it, etc. If we had just ended it, they could all have gone on, prepared this week and played The Game.
November 24th, 2014 at 3:24 PM ^
It's very doubtful that Mattison is going to read your rebuttal to him. It also really doesn't matter at this point.
November 24th, 2014 at 3:24 PM ^
Larry Foote wants more kids from the 'hood, Mattison says graduation is far and away the most important thing, and yet somehow it's the fans who know nothing and are always wrong.
November 24th, 2014 at 9:21 PM ^
...because it reads as if you believe being from "the 'hood" and graduating from Michigan are mutually exclusive. And someone else can be "funny guy" on this one and post the "THAT'S RACIST" gif.
November 24th, 2014 at 3:29 PM ^
Who cares?
Why are people still expending energy getting mad at this stuff? None of it matters.
November 24th, 2014 at 4:18 PM ^
November 24th, 2014 at 3:24 PM ^
Mattison has always been enamored with Hoke. These sentiments aren't surprising or new.
November 24th, 2014 at 3:32 PM ^
You should see them wrestle.
November 24th, 2014 at 4:04 PM ^
Days wrestling at Western Michigan.
November 24th, 2014 at 3:26 PM ^
If me keeping my job was specifically tied in to my boss keeping his job, regardless of how poor the results from my boss were nor how close the boat was to finally sinking, you can bet your sweet ass I'd be giving every reason under the sun that he's still the man for the job.
November 24th, 2014 at 4:25 PM ^
money or his employment prospects. His buddy? yeah. Their players? yeah. Their legacy? yeah. But he's an old guy who was probably getting ready to retire and enjoy his grandkids before Hoke stole him from Baltimore.
November 24th, 2014 at 3:26 PM ^
That sounds nice and all, but seriously, nobody gives two shits about the graduation rate unless it's abnormally bad.
November 24th, 2014 at 3:28 PM ^
If his boss gets fired, he gets fired.
November 24th, 2014 at 3:28 PM ^
What is Mattison supposed to do? Badmouth his friend and boss in public? I have no problem with Mattison adhering to "the code."
November 24th, 2014 at 3:38 PM ^
November 24th, 2014 at 3:28 PM ^
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November 24th, 2014 at 3:29 PM ^
His players graduated. And his teams won. They knew what winning meant. And they knew how to do it the Michigan way. Hoke worked under Lloyd. So did Greg Mattison. Lloyd wasn't chosen after a search. He was chosen because he made sense as the next man up after Gary Moeller was forced out. And he delivered. He delivered and his teams never lost sight of what it means to play the Michgan way.
If I fault Hoke for anytthing it is his inability to pass this trait onto his teams. He is responsible for their failure to play the Michigan way. And that is his failure. Not recordwise but Michiganwise. And Mattison deep down knows this.
This team lacks leadership whether it comes from the inability to direct itself in face of challenge and contention when the game is on the line. There is a lack of will. And that is a coaches job to impart and demand outside of discipline and practice. It comes from will. And seekikng the best from the leaders and the best, and this coeaching staff has failed to deliver that from their players. We haven't seen it in one perfect performance or near to that effort.
And that is what Michigan excellence is all about.
November 24th, 2014 at 4:08 PM ^
Weren't the APR scores under Carr close to the bottom of the big ten near the end at least?
November 24th, 2014 at 7:34 PM ^
It's possible. Aren't we having a bit of a problem with our basketball APR because we're so fucking good everyone's leaving really early? Carr's teams must have had an above average rate of people leaving early.
November 24th, 2014 at 4:31 PM ^
He probably only won himself the job by beating Ohio State as an "interim".... I like Lloyd in the same way I like Brady, but post-Moeller was really the time to get some new blood into the program. Bo deserved to name his successor, but not a line of successors.
November 24th, 2014 at 7:22 PM ^
The interim tag was lifted before the Ohio State game.
November 24th, 2014 at 3:31 PM ^
I absolutely do not agree with it. For example:
"I've worked with a lot of head coaches," Mattison said. "I've seen a lot of them. You don't know how lucky you are here."
November 24th, 2014 at 3:39 PM ^
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November 24th, 2014 at 5:57 PM ^
And he could say, "Brady Hoke's a great man," and leave it there. Instead, he goes further, to say that we don't know how lucky we are.
Hoke's unsuccessful, but I don't know. I think its his commitment to lousy to mediocre assistants that is his downfall, not anything else.
November 24th, 2014 at 11:02 PM ^
I wonder what that statement meant. Was there friction between Mattison and Carr too? Is that why Mattison bolted for ND just before the NC Season? Curious comment? Or does he have an issue with Bob Davie or John Harbaugh?
November 24th, 2014 at 4:51 PM ^
I think we'd be better off with Danny Hope than with Brady Hoke because at least Danny Hope has a bitchin' moustache and wears a headset.
November 24th, 2014 at 3:35 PM ^