Is Matthews certain to leave after this season?
Seems like we have all assumed it was a formality he would be leaving after this season, and all the talk was that he missed senior day with the ankle injury. However, he does have another year of eligibility and I’m not positive he would be drafted right now. He can always play overseas or G league, but is it all possible he returns? We are over the scholarship limit but there are certainly a couple of guys who could transfer out for more playing time elsewhere.
I would be absolutely shocked if he comes back next year. He might not even be drafted, but I don't think that would stop him. He's going to have his degree to fall back on and he probably just wants to play professionally. He might end up in the G League or even overseas, but I think he's fine with that. And then whenever he is done, he has that degree.
He's to the point now where he probably is what he is; a great defender with a streaky shot. I don't see how a 5th year would really raise his stock unless he improves dramatically offensively and becomes a knockdown shooter.
His shot will likely improve when he leaves and has all day to work on it.
Not really.
If you ask a "chance" yeah, there's a .000001% chance.
Beilein mentioned in an interview about a month ago that "Charles has a decision to make after the season".
It doesn't appear to be a fait accompli.
Would a coach say anything other than that?
Mike Krzyzewski would.
https://www.theringer.com/2018/4/9/17213792/trevon-duval-duke-one-and-done
He pushed him out because he overrecruited with 5* freshmen
You have to wonder if some of these 5* freshman will eventually begin to see that coming into a loaded program is actually detrimental to their NBA aspirations.
No. They go to a blue blood bball school because bagmen exist and if there's genuine NBA potential, they'll get there eventually.
Not saying you're wrong, but I'd like to see evidence for "coming into a loaded program is actually detrimental to their NBA aspirations."
I think that would be a very interesting diary if you or someone else were to research it.
well, UM has matthews now, so there's that.
*shakes magic 8-ball* Maybe
I think it comes down to what his aspirations are. He is probably a G-league/ oversees player. He can leave and play for a few years in that venue and make some money or postpone it a year and come back for a run at a National Championship.
The feeling I get is that he graduates and leaves after this season. He has his Michigan degree for after his playing days are done and moves on with his life. I cannot fault him for this way of thinking. After all, who wants to play skool for another year anyways.
You'd think he'd go straight to the role of coach where he would oversee players?
/s
Ask Brian Griese that question.
I think giving him a senior day was the writing on the wall
He was just presented on Senior Night. He's gone. And honestly, coming back doesn't help him move up in the draft. There's basically no value to him to return. He'd just be putting off making any money for another year.
I’m not sure of “no value” to returning, he could conceivably improve. But even if he stays static, he still gets to be a college student for a year and maybe make a run for a national championship. I’d trade my foot to be able to go back in college for another year with friends, and I didn’t even have thousands of people cheering me on every time I played a game. I haven’t been to any G-league games, but I bet they don’t compare to playing at MSG in front of a sea of wolverines.
He'd improve in the G League too. Probably more since they lack practice restrictions and he would make some cash.
College was fun, but I'm sure being a "pro bball player" is pretty fun too, even if you never get into the NBA.
Oh for sure, he could also improve in the g-league. He better hope though that he gets a two way contract though if he wants to make any cash. It looks like half the dudes in the league make $35,000 over five months playing in front of a couple hundred people while bussing around to medium sized towns. That means a second job in the off season and while it might be fun, I’m guessing those guys don’t get the Jesus Shuttlesworth treatment just by virtue of being a G-league “pro basketball” player.
I also suspect he’ll go and wish him decades of success, I just think there are legit upsides to being a college player.
I’d trade my foot to be able to go back in college for another year with friends, and I didn’t even have thousands of people cheering me on every time I played a game.
But you probably went into a regular day job. Big difference.
My cover is certainly a regular day job. I'm not at liberty to discuss my actual job, but just between you and I, it's a lot of hard work making it appear that I run Wayne Enterprises while Alfred really runs the show.
Just kidding, I'm not actually Batman. I went to grad school and then med school, so I probably would've traded both feet for a chill year of college.
I don't understand this mindset at all. If Matthews returned and shot 40% from 3, you don't think he would move up in the draft?
There would be 4 years of tape of him not shooting at that clip. NBA GM’s would probably lean more to that year being an aberration, more than that being the norm. Plus he isn’t getting any younger, go look at most mock drafts...majority of Seniors are at the end of Round 2.
Didn't he just state that the Nebraska game would be his last at Crisler?
Beilein tweeted that we said "farewell to Charles" last night. He's gone.
If we get last night's starting 5 for next season, I'd be pretty pumped. Livers has so much potential and it is well balanced. The key (again) will be developing depth and improving outside shooting.
Only thing stopping us from getting that starting 5 would be Iggy leaving or Poole blowing up in the tournament.
Really hope both come back. We'll see. There is a chance both leave. That would be detrimental.
if iggy and/or poole blow up in the tourny, i will take it. it would mean another final 4 appearance.
At this point, only a very small chance. Both have talent, but haven't shown it consistently. Too many off nights for both of them.
Right now, they would both be later in the second round, if they got drafted at all. They could both improve their stock with another year in college.
Beilein tweet from this morning:
Thx to @MaizeRageUM and all our fans for rooting for us in our 17-1 home schedule ! Last night was special as we said farewell to Charles but welcomed Frosh to the current rotation We are grateful for the great atmosphere our students and fans have created at Crisler #goblue
— John Beilein (@JohnBeilein) March 1, 2019
+1 thank you, this is what I was referring to in my post
Translation:
"Sorry about last Sunday. Our bad. I will start to play the really talented players that have been riding pine a little bit more from now on."
It's amazing John Beilein has won one game as a head coach, let alone 800, given how incompetent certain people seem to think he is at everything about his job.
I would have thought there would be a slight chance he came back to work on his game. But why would they give him a senior night celebration and present his jersey if he was coming back?
It would take something drastic happening in the next month for him to come back. If he’s graduating this year, there’s almost no reason for him to come back unless he just absolutely loves college basketball that much. His stock isn’t going to improve with another year in college. He can start getting paid to play whether it’s in the G league or overseas. I could see him sticking in the league if he can improve his jump shot to shoot 33% from deep in the NBA. His defense is already at a pro level.
He very much reminds me of Bruce Brown who the Pistons took in the 2nd last year. High 4 star recruit, goes to college and doesn't show much on offense but is a lockdown defender.
Deserves to go Pro.
Best to Charles doing whatever. He has really done well at M, both academically and Athletically.
Well done Charles.
Deserves ? Weird thing to say. He did his job so you are now giving him approval to leave ? Fact is, what he “deserves” is irrelevant.
He will not gain any draft position by returning. The pros already know what he is. He's getting a degree. He will leave now on the slight chance that he gets drafted well; it's still better than he'll get after next year.
Myself like many others keep forgetting what school he transferred from. Perhaps if he returned for his senior senior season, we could be reminded.
He would have been gone last year if not for a hand injury during draft prep.
Yes. It's possible; however, none of us know for sure. Sooooooo...yeah.
EDIT: I forgot that he was presented a senior night thing, so he is certainly gone, which sucks, but is also fine.
I hope he stays. We’d be great again, as usual. In Beilein I trust! GO BLUE!
Wouldn't the Senior Day presentation say a lot about this?
Absolutely not.
Romeowolv says yes. I say no.