Manziel gonna Manziel

Submitted by Finance-PhD on

So after missing half a game Manziel decided to do his thing and had some fun with that powerhouse Rice. He mouthed off one time too many and got an unsportsmanlike penalty. Coach tried talking to him and Johnny just walked away from him.

Don't worry that leadership didn't affect TA&M as only two players were ejected. One was for targetting and one was for throwing a punch.

 

Not sure if Mark RIcht has lost control of Manziel or if Sumlin should now be in that meme.

 

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9620691/johnny-manziel-p…

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Wendyk5

August 31st, 2013 at 10:16 PM ^

At first, his off-field stuff seemed like a matter of maturity. Now that he knows what's at stake, he continues to do dickish things and shows it's not immaturity, it's a lack of character. No one's going to root for this guy, except A & M fans, and then, only if he keeps winning. 

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Erik_in_Dayton

August 31st, 2013 at 10:23 PM ^

I remember a number of people in the media being absolutely aghast at Pryor, Chris Fowler being one of them.  Fowler and others apparently think Manziel, in contrast, is a lovable scamp.  The obvious difference is that Pryor is black and Maziel is white.  It's really as simple as that. 

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xxxxNateDaGreat

August 31st, 2013 at 11:11 PM ^

Difference is, for most people, that Pryor was making money (or getting tats and cars) off of stuff he was given (or earned). By selling his Ohio State stuff (namely his "we beat michigan" gold pants) people saw it as Pryor not caring about Ohio State or college football and just wanting to get tattoos (which he kinda did).

Manziel was making money off of stuff he signed (i.e. entirely his name). I think there would be more of an uproar if his signed heisman had turned up on ebay or we actually found out what he spent his money on. I'm guessing booze.

Regardless, he made his money off of his name. Pryor made it off of selling awards and other stuff that people think (right or wrong) are invaluable.

The difference may seem miniscule, but it's not. And either way, I've seen plenty of people who hate Manziel AND Pryor for their arrogance.

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Erik_in_Dayton

August 31st, 2013 at 11:36 PM ^

Both were making money from their association with major college sports.  I doubt many members of the national sports media even know what OSU's gold pants are.  They have good reason, though, to know that Manziel punched a guy after his friend yelled a racial slur at him.  http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8112673/texas-aggies-freshman-qb-johnny-manziel-arrested   Yet Pryor was somehow a thug or a debaser of college football, while Manziel, the lovable rogue, just gets mixed up in wacky monkey shines.

As far as people who dislike both, fair enough.  I'm only pointing to media members whose reaction to the Pryor news was very different from their reaction to the Manziel news.

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SalvatoreQuattro

August 31st, 2013 at 11:47 PM ^

I have seen no one portray Manziel as a lovable scamp. What I have seen are people scorning his lack of maturity. The kid is routintely pilloried in the media.

The fans are the ones who are assholes. They hate Tebow for his squeak cleanness and they hate Manziel for being a dick. It seems that fans love to hate people  no matter how they behave. The issue here is every bit as much with the dickhead fans as it is with the dickhead players. There simply  are too many dickheads in this world.

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maizenbluenc

September 1st, 2013 at 8:52 AM ^

cast murder in a casual light - even as an not well thought out misstatement - I can see that Pryor and Manziel are of a very similar character. With all the media focus on Manziel now, and his apparent sense of priviledge and invulnerability, it is only a matter of time.

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gbdub

September 1st, 2013 at 11:09 AM ^

I guess I don't remember the negativity against Pryor in the general media. Here, yes, but that's to be expected. Most of the OSU scandal coverage focused on Tressel.

Now there was something of a circus when Pryor decided to go to the supplemental draft, but to me that's different from criticizing his actual NCAA transgressions. So far at least there's not a parallel to that with Manziel.

And rightly or wrongly (probably wrongly) the much harsher punishment faced by OSU colors opinions on Pryor.

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Lac55

August 31st, 2013 at 10:26 PM ^

after he got the penalty. Just walked straight pass him while he was trying to talk to him. Cant imagine what Sumlin deals with behind closed doors.

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GoBluePhil

August 31st, 2013 at 10:39 PM ^

I can't believe anyone would look at Manziel and think he is a decent kid. If this is what people want to condone that is a travesty. And the poster who said Bo would not tolerate a kid walking away from him is is correct. They would have to put a roadside grave market on that spot because Bo would have blown up. Athletes are becoming full of themselves and I'm sick of it. I constantly telling my son that this is not athletes act and how respect is shown for your coach, your team and the game you play. No one should play team game and feel entitled. I'm seeing it more and more and it makes me sick.

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LSAClassOf2000

August 31st, 2013 at 10:42 PM ^

"That wasn't very smart and that's why he didn't go back in the game," A&M coach Kevin Sumlin told ESPN after the game. "I hoped that at this point he'd have learned something."

There is more to this in the USA Today story, something that provides another dimension to this quote. They go on to mention that Sumlin basically told Manziel that he's going to face the ribbing all season and that he has to find a way to just handle it without crossing lines. Even if Rice was nudging him in the direction of losing his cool, it seems to me that Johnny Manziel is a self-absorbed narcissist on many levels. It will be interesting to see if it gets the better of him this season. 

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321goBLUE

August 31st, 2013 at 11:06 PM ^

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CompleteLunacy

September 1st, 2013 at 1:40 AM ^

I can't stand his spoiled "me against the world" mentality. Dude, you won the fucking HEISMAN trophy. You should hold yourself above that bullshit. Act like you've been there. When you get taunted at and criticized (and you will, because you're a target now), your response should be...NOTHING. A big fat nothing. Because you shouldn't care. Why bother with the Rice guys? You just scored, you're running away with it. Scoreboard says all that needs to be said. If you don't want that negative attention, stop inflicting it upon yourself with shit like this.

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natesezgoblue

September 1st, 2013 at 2:16 AM ^

Im all in favor of good sportmnship and just going back to the huddle, but why is it okay for Mayweather, Kobe and guys richard sherman to do the exact same thing and its considered compettive spirit? 

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HelloHeisman91

September 1st, 2013 at 4:45 AM ^

Manziel just missed roughly 4% of his season because he is self absorbed and put himself before his team after becoming the first freshman ever to win the heisman trophy. Upon his return he showed zero humility and his actions got him benched. If you think if Kobe Bryant were the reigning MVP of the NBA and he missed the first 4 games of a season(roughly 4%) because he was suspended for being a bonehead and his first game back he got benched on national tv for being a bonehead, again, wouldn't be a big story you're crazy.

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Danwillhor

September 1st, 2013 at 11:01 AM ^

as the kid is a dick. Period. Also, for far too long the ESPN guys (and other taking heads in the media) outright watched this kid do all this crap and not only did many play the laughing "he's just being and enjoying the fun of a normal college kid" card but they then stuck to their guns during the autograph scenario but even today when he treated his coach like he was beneath him. To me it's not an issue beyond thinking he's a clown who will implode in a few years. Yet, as far as trouble with the NCAA and the same pundits and taking heads, I've seen the same guys defending JM talk about much better people with less offenses fat worse. I only vouch that. I don't and won't "get my story straight" for you or anyone. I'm not your monkey. I only vouch one poster's claims.

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markusr2007

September 1st, 2013 at 4:30 AM ^

And finally learn a lesson not to walk past his head coach when he's getting chewed out.

Meanwhile that next Sunday, unicorns will be discovered roaming the now defunct Detroit zoo, and Betty White will be announced the new lead singer of the Foo Fighters.

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