That loss is on Beilein

Submitted by Fresh Meat on

That loss is 100% on John Beilein.  It is frustrating to see Michigan outplay Arkansas for 30 of the 40 minutes and lose.  How, HOW, does a team go up 20 in the first ten minutes and the coach not call a single timeout?  Arkansas was obviously feeling it.  They could not miss, the crowd was going crazy, they have all the momentum, and you don't want to try and call a T.O. to see if you can kill it?  That just blows my mind.  I literally cannot comprehend not calling one timeout in those first 10 minutes.  Arkansas went on a run probably 4 or 5 times, and you did not try to stop at least one?

Beilein is a good coach, and seems like a good guy, but you will never convince me he is not completely to blame for this one.  That is coaching 101.

BiSB

January 21st, 2012 at 4:28 PM ^

You're stretching the definition of the word "we." As the guy who constantly trolls the liveblogs, and declared "game over" during the Sugar Bowl... when the score was 3-0 in the FIRST QUARTER, call me crazy to think you might not exactly be a die-hard.

Mannix

January 21st, 2012 at 4:49 PM ^

the brick he threw in when Michigan was making their run. His shot hit the flat back part of the rim and somehow spun in such a way as to roll into the hoop. If it hits anyplace else, fans may have been hurt.

That bucket stopped a 6-0 run by UM and put the lead back to 7 and then Ark turned that into a 6-0 run the other way.

myblueheaven

January 21st, 2012 at 4:26 PM ^

the team has to learn how to play threw adversity in that type of environment to prepare for the tournament , b1G and NCAA where the atmosphere will be very similar. I have no problem with Beilien testing his teams meddle under those circumstances and hey, it almost worked! Bottom line is you have to learn how to win on the road. This will help them going foreword.

FL_Steve

January 21st, 2012 at 4:26 PM ^

100% agree, he did not do enough at the start of the game, regardless of the TOs. Hope he is able to make some adjustments. We can't afford to fall apart like that; looking for #4 over MSU will add some reassurance

Newk

January 21st, 2012 at 4:27 PM ^

Perhaps you are overestimating the powers of the timeout? Timeouts don't score baskets or play defense. And there's a lot more to coaching than calling timeouts.

da3mite

January 21st, 2012 at 4:28 PM ^

Beilein and this team have guts. Yes, the team lost but without Beilein's adjustments over the course of the game along with the intense "never give up" attitude, Burke would not have even had an opportunity to win the game at the end.

da3mite

January 21st, 2012 at 4:44 PM ^

Many coaches have a tendency to stick with their original gameplan when it does not work. Many coaches let their egos block their way of making adjustments. I give a ton of credit to Beilein for admitting that his original plan did not work and making the necessary defensive adjustments to get the team back in the game, both score wise and mentally.

ish

January 21st, 2012 at 4:28 PM ^

i agree with the OP.  we start so slow on the road, show no fire and play no D for the first 15 minutes.  happened at IU, happened at Iowa.  that's coaching.  i love beilein, but he has to fix that.

MGoBender

January 21st, 2012 at 4:33 PM ^

As a coach of a team that also tends to start slow, let me say that your attribution of starting slow to coaching is far overrated.

I realize my team starts slow.  We talk about it.  We talk about it at practice, before games, and after games.  We've changed pre-game routines, practice order.  You get the point.  The coaches can't go out there and box out with 4th quarter intensity during the 1st quarter for the kids.  At some point someone has to step up and do it.  Last I checked, coaches aren't out on the floor.

StephenRKass

January 21st, 2012 at 4:29 PM ^

I won't put this on Beilein. For us to be in this game to the end, with how we are shooting threes, is incredible. The team did not give up, and dug itself almost out of a huge hole. I do believe that Hardaway and Smotrycz will turn things around soon, which will reflect itself in the win column. I also don't think we will face another team like this for some time, if at all.

Beilein has this team believing in themselves. After today, I believe we will end the year with 21 or 22 wins, win at least one and probably two in the Big 10 tourney, and win at least one, possibly up to three, in the NCAA tourney.

I think that this loss is critical in a good way. It is going to toughen us up enough to win at least three if not four or five games on the road in the conference. I think that this loss will pull Burke, THJ, and possibly Smotz, into a higher plane and different dimension.

BiSB

January 21st, 2012 at 4:31 PM ^

The point of calling a TO would have been to settle things down, yes?  Well, the TV time-outs didn't do anything to settle them down, and they eventually pulled out of it without timeouts and played damn well. The first 10 minutes were gonna be brutal no matter what happened, and those TOs came in pretty handy down the stretch.

Beyond that, this is a learning experience for more important games later on in East Lansing, Columbus, and the tourney.  Long term, I like the way things turned out today... minus the L.

Alumnus93

January 21st, 2012 at 4:31 PM ^

or another decent big man.  Why we dont have another like Morgan is a recruiting gaffe I think.

But why do we have to spot every team 20 points while ON THE ROAD?

Seriously.  We get blown off the ball for every road game. That isnt a good team when it cannot win on the road.

And when I saw Burke play at start of season, I said to myself that he'll be the best player on the team.....and he is, but you know, this seems to be to the detriment of Hardaway, who seems to be void of the offense with Burke playing. Burke must EFFECTIVELY get Hardaway involved, otherwise kiss the season goodbye.

We're gonna get blown out by MSU in EL, unless they stop spotting teams 20 pts.

umchicago

January 21st, 2012 at 4:42 PM ^

don't blame hardaway's troubles on burke.  burke gets him plenty of open looks when he kicks the ball out to him THJ is just missing the shots at an alarming rate anymore.  and today, when he drove the basket, he was out of control.  that's not on burke either.

snoopblue

January 21st, 2012 at 4:32 PM ^

The idiots really just come out of the woodwork after a loss. Arkansas shot 70% in the first half. They ran like demons in the first half, especially because this was the biggest home game so far this season. That translated into fatigue and weak legs in the second half which resulted in missed shots and lazy defense from Arkansas, which allowed us to come back in the game. Against a team like Arkansas, and the way the play, a timeout really only benefits them by giving them a breather. Our guys were trying to slow the game down in the first half and conserve energy. Please, feel free to have an opinion, but when you clearly know nothing about the opponent, basketball or the coach, expect to get ripped. =)

Fresh Meat

January 21st, 2012 at 4:36 PM ^

Its funny to read through the posts.  A lot of people disagree, and that is fine, but probably 70% of the people who disagree don't add a single substantive thing to the discussion. 

So because you disagree with me, I know nothing about the opponent, basketball, or the coach?  You do not know me, know nothing about how much basketball I have played, coached, or watched.  Apparently Beilein and I have starkly different philosophy's about T.O.'s and stemming a run.  But your ad hominem attack when you know nothing about me is ridiculous.

bronxblue

January 21st, 2012 at 5:00 PM ^

Nice to see that tough guys don't take the weekend off.
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<br>Just relax. You start a thread saying a coach is 100% to blame for a loss, no questions asked, and are surprised people disagree. Regardless of your intent, this post comes across as an irrational post from a fair-weather fan, and so people are going to call you out. If you don't like the response, then don't invite it

BlockM

January 21st, 2012 at 4:34 PM ^

The thing is, this is the game you want to lose if you're going to lose one right now. By forcing the team to play through the adversity, you gain that experience for later in the season when you might not have time-outs to use.

I'm not thrilled with the performance today, and obviously it would have been awesome to get this win, but in the grand scheme of things, dropping an out of conference away game is not going to hurt us.

Space Coyote

January 21st, 2012 at 4:34 PM ^

Michigan, outside of Trey Burke, doesn't have the athletes to handle pressure that well.  I'm surprised more teams don't press Michigan because of this.  You saw MSU make a comeback last year when they started to press (and Michigan only really had Morris to handle the rock against it), and then Arkansas.  They actually adjusted to it very well.  

The problem is that they didn't respond quick enough, and they should respond quicker.  This isn't a moral victory type of thing, they still lost.  But I still don't mind not calling a timeout in that situation, it helps a team grow and next time they face pressure like that they will be much better off.  It's a game they should have won, ok, but in the long run they will be better.  If something they don't respond well to happens come tourney time I expect a timeout and things to be fixed sooner so they can win these games they should, but in this situation it just sucks they lost, nothing more.

Blueroller

January 21st, 2012 at 4:35 PM ^

I'm interested in hearing Belien's rationale for no timeouts early on. But that game had trouble written all over it from the get-go. To come back as Michigan did was remarkable.

I've been watching Michigan hoops since the 70s and Belien is the best coach we've had since at least Johnny Orr. When something he does turns out badly, that's unusual. I am grateful to have him, and I love this team. All its parts may not mesh enough of the time to reach elite status this season. But we are headed in the right direction.

 

LSAClassOf2000

January 21st, 2012 at 4:42 PM ^

"Beilein is a good coach, and seems like a good guy, but you will never convince me he is not completely to blame for this one.  That is coaching 101." - Fresh Meat

You will also never be convinced that the fact that they were able to control the tempo a little bit in the second half and get within a single possession are  indicative of good coaching, right? We struggled early, but I am not going to throw Beilein under the bus for this one. The "L" sucks, but they made it close and made  great adjustments after Arkansas' initial tear in the 1st. I'll take the things I saw in this game into the next and say it can lead to a "W". If you're going to lose a tough road game, this might be the one to lose, and it won't kill us at the end. 

dillonfall

January 21st, 2012 at 7:22 PM ^

And tell me again why he couldnt have this team prepared and adjusted for arkansas BEFORE the game started instea of waiting till 10 mins into the game when your already down 20??? Thats what a good coach is suppose to do, have their team ready and know what the other team is going to do BEFORE the game...

Blue boy johnson

January 21st, 2012 at 4:43 PM ^

But you gotta bring it STRONG on the road. This lack of intensity (especially by Novak) is infuriating. Don't these guys want to win. It kills me that they don't give a shit when they stink up the court. Did you see the happy look on Burke's face when his shot rattled out. Total fucking apathy.