Let's pile on MSU - coaching edition

Submitted by Gameboy on

Since the boys and RCMB and other Sparties are being such a douche about being left out of BCS, we might as well just pile it on.

I say with all the open jobs in college football, there is a pretty good chance that this is the last year for Dantonio with MSU. With Hoke locking down recruiting in Michigan for the forseeable future, Dantonio's job has gotten a magnitude more difficult than compare to last several years. If he is a smart man, he should take the first decent bus out of town. If Meyer was not available, Dantonio might have signed with Ohio already.

Out of all the open (and supposedly oppening) coaching position, who is most likely to poach Dantonio out of Lansing?

My guess is that if Brown is indeed out in Texas, Dantonio has to be one of the few names in the running for the position. Dantonio could easily win national championships with all the Talent from Texas.

In the same vein, if Texas A&M came calling, he would have to listen. I would even say the same for UCLA. If UCLA finished 10-2 and second in Pac12, they would be going to a BCS bowl, unlike MSU.

What do you think? Does Dantonio finally bolt MSU? Will RCMB servers crash from all the crying? 

bacon

December 4th, 2011 at 3:52 PM ^

I don't think that Texas is looking at Dantonio, but I do agree that he's better off to take a better coaching position (say Ole miss), than stay at MSU.  That said, he's probably not going anywhere.

justingoblue

December 4th, 2011 at 3:56 PM ^

Ole Miss is probably one of the few schools in the country in a worse position than MSU. The SEC West is brutal and they have a huge disadvantage with the history/culture there. UNC is probably the best available job outside (possibly) Texas or PSU, but they're going to want someone with ACC ties.

justingoblue

December 4th, 2011 at 3:53 PM ^

Why would Texas want Dantonio, again? The closest he's coached to Texas is Kansas in the early 1990's. He's doing a decent job at MSU, but there are questions about his ability to win big games, and Texas could bring in a coach with a proven record.

Michael

December 4th, 2011 at 3:53 PM ^

I don't know why Dantonio would leave when he's treated like a diety in East Lansing. All you have to do is listen to the guy to understand that he is a strange, smug, and egotistical man. He LOVES the way he is treated by all the sparties.

Don

December 4th, 2011 at 3:54 PM ^

Dantonio ain't leaving MSU, and he sure as hell wouldn't receive any interest from Texas if Brown retired. I wouldn't put him in the top echelon of coaches nationwide, but he's a solid coach nonetheless. The fact that he's an insufferably sanctimonious hypocrite doesn't change that.

PurpleStuff

December 4th, 2011 at 4:09 PM ^

It takes time to bring in your guys and build something up if it wasn't humming when you got there.  After 3 years at Cincinnati, Dantonio handed his program off to raving lunatic Brian Kelly and they averaged 11 wins over the next three years.  After three years building things at MSU, he's gone 21-5 the last two seasons.

Texas could (and probably will) do a hell of a lot worse. 

Gorgeous Borges

December 4th, 2011 at 4:17 PM ^

I don't really know, man. Saban never manage to do much better at MSU than Dantonio's doing right now. It's not like Michigan hasn't been winning the recruiting battles all along, but somehow, Dantonio finds a way to develop his players remarkably well. I'm not sure what about him isn't upper-echelon. He's found a way to go 11-1 and now 10-3 in consecutive seasons with MSU-level talent, picking up a conference and division title along the way. Remember how we were talking awhile about how MSU's offensive line was going to suck? Remember how that just magically disappeared and they piled up more rushing yards than Wisconsin did in the Big Ten Championship Game? I think that Dantonio has done some remarkable things, and I'm not totally sure why Texas wouldn't consider him if that came up.

bacon1431

December 4th, 2011 at 3:59 PM ^

Only place I could see Dantonio leaving for is OSU. But obviously, that ain't happening. He might leave for an elite job elsewhere, but I doubt those schools are interested in a coach with 1 3-way split conference title.

UMgradMSUdad

December 4th, 2011 at 3:58 PM ^

Let's see, start with a faulty premise, then leap to unrealistic conclusions that only exist if the fautly premise is accepted.  Yep, mark it down, Dantonio is the next Longhorn coach!

RoxyMtnHiM

December 4th, 2011 at 3:59 PM ^

Dantonio is not going anywhere. I would be surprised if he did anyway.

I am no fan of his, but I will give him this: quite uncharacteristically of him, it did not occur to him to say anything snide about Michigan in the post-game interview I saw. I was waiting for it, too.

El Jeffe

December 4th, 2011 at 4:00 PM ^

Would it be possible to hold off on the posts that mock MSU and proclaim M's superiority to MSU in all ways until after we break our 4-game losing streak to them?

PurpleStuff

December 4th, 2011 at 4:18 PM ^

Saban left State before the bowl game following his fifth season on the job.  Saban was 35-24-1.  At the same point right now, Dantonio is 43-22.  Saban finished better than 5th in the Big Ten just one time.  Dantonio has shared a conference title, gone to the conference title game after winning his division, and finished in third place another time.  Dantonio has averaged going 6-2 in the Big Ten over the last four seasons.

The guy is a really fucking good coach. 

PurpleStuff

December 4th, 2011 at 5:32 PM ^

The Tigers missed bowl games the two years prior to Saban's arrival.  They won two conference titles in the thirty years between 1971 and 2000 (Saban's first year on the job).  They only went to three bowl games in the 1990's.  They had a strong recruiting base and were viewed as underachievers, but it wasn't a national power by any stretch of the imagination. 

I don't know what would be a current equivalent job opening (maybe UCLA?), but Dantonio could get a job of that quality in a heartbeat.  

M-Wolverine

December 4th, 2011 at 6:16 PM ^

1. Saban had heat on him, always had. Might have been his NFL time. I don't know. But he was a hot name the whole time he was there to move up.

2. Saban was there when his instate rival was at it's peak, and he was always going to be 2nd fiddle in his own State. Controlling a State like Louisiana had appeal.  Dantonio has had a down Michigan, and cashed in on it, so he's built a foundation and a legacy that will keep him untouchable probably ever there, unless he loses like 3 in a row to Michigan.

3. Dantonio may be a douche, but he fits along with everyone up there perfectly. Saban never really got along with anyone, and was just kept for the winning. 

4. There aren't really any sleeping giant jobs out there right now, that would be better than MSU. OSU was it, and he would have had a shot if Meyer wasn't fake vacationing.  UCLA can be good, but they're not LSU with that recruiting base. They can't even bounce up when USC is getting hammered. Texas is, but there's just no ties there.  A&M might be interesting, but going into the SEC, with Texas-sized expectations, is that really a better situation than what he's got at MSU?  The problem is, other than Texas, most of the jobs open are other little brother jobs.  And why build up one of them when he already has to the level where he walks on water?

But I agree with your last statement. Mondo-dick he may be (which I'm sure we don't disagree on either), but the guy can coach. The fact that everyone thought the Spartans were going to get smoked last night, but really should have won, that was coaching.  Lloyd said the rivalry was going to get closer after his last game/win against them, and it was an acknowledgement that the jokes that have rolled through E. Lansing since Saban left were done.  Frankly, if Fake Bo doesn't start winning big at Nebraska, and gets the boot, I can see the battle for Michigan deciding the Legends division for a lot of years. 

People of a certain age can remember when Perles was rolling, or even Saban, and they were a contender. Dantonio has them in a similar position.

LSAClassOf2000

December 4th, 2011 at 4:03 PM ^

"What do you think? Does Dantonio finally bolt MSU? Will RCMB servers crash from all the crying? "- from  the  OP

What would be Dantonio's incentive to leave again? He's got a comfortable job with a school that couldn't get anyone remotely better on short notice, and they are paying him nice wads of cash to get them within striking distance of what they would consider "greatness". 

Texas is a headline job that could easily attract someone that not only knows the region better (Dantonio was in the B12 for about 15 minutes 20 years ago, as I recall), and it could also attract someone arguably better than Dantonio. Texas has no incentive to look at him seriously, in my estimation.

So, no. 

 

Ovr

December 4th, 2011 at 4:05 PM ^

He just re-did his deal, didn't he?  I don't see him going anywhere.  His Buckeye-bred Wolverine hatred serves him uniquely well in EL.  That visceral anger and morosity cannot be replicated toward some other regional rival.

bob_ufer

December 4th, 2011 at 4:06 PM ^

Dantonio is odd but we should focus on UM...still anxious to see Hoke's second recruiting class when it is more than promising "early playing time".  Missing the 2013 MI OT to ND was not a good start on that class - for Hoke or S. Morris.