A lens into JUCO schools

Submitted by Dennis on November 17th, 2017 at 4:46 PM
"We ain't nuttin but fat ass dumb ass country folk" - East Mississippi Community College Defensive Lineman. I'm probably late to the train but watching last chance u has really opened my eyes to the get rich or die trying nature of "making it" in football. As a scrawny white kid from a working class family in Ohio who went to community college in Toledo and transferred to finish my degree at Michigan, I truly feel for the kids that attempt to make it through football glory. It's worth a watch if you haven't seen it.



November 17th, 2017 at 4:53 PM ^

The silliest thing about trying to make it through football is that you literally have to go to college to make it through football. You might as well just get a valuable degree while you're there. The only reason not to finish is because you've made it.


November 17th, 2017 at 4:55 PM ^

The most depressing part is the lack of attention to grades. They were in class explaining the concept of an elippses, and they were yawning. Like, it's not hard to pass class in your average SEC school... let alone community college. These kids weren't raised with a sliver of discipline, so it's difficult to see that wasted potential.


November 17th, 2017 at 4:54 PM ^

You are a little late to the party, but I agree on both accounts. Tough situation, and very good program. Both seasons, and the 2nd season is the last one at East Mississippi.


November 17th, 2017 at 5:13 PM ^

But besides the quote from a popular Netflix series, I'm not really sure how much of a "lens" you're providing.

I've also never heard of someone transferring from an out of state CC to UM. Not saying it wasn't within your means financially but the tuition disparity, not to mention the acceptance of credits, is pretty damn remarkable. That's a hell of an accomplishment! +1 For you, fine sir!


November 17th, 2017 at 5:47 PM ^

Scooba's 20 miles away from Macon, MS --- which is, literally, the poorest town in America.

I definitely root for the kids on the show.  But you sort of just know that most of them won't make it.


November 17th, 2017 at 6:30 PM ^

have ended up there have been failed by the school systems their entire lives. In the south a lot of schools will just pass you along, especially if you're a talented football player. In Bruce Feldman's book "Meat Market", Jerrell Powe read at a 1st grade level, and nobody figured it out until he was 19. Imagine how shy alot of us were as teenagers, now imagine asking for help learning how to read at 16 years old? It's pretty tragic.


November 17th, 2017 at 8:21 PM ^

but I found it incredibly compelling, and equal parts sad and infuriating. Sad, because when you learn the backstories of the players (often dead, absentee, or in prison dads), you realize they've never had a positive male role model in their lives. Or they witnessed their mom being shot in front of their eyes (Ollie). And on and on. 

EMCC seems like just another stop where education is mostly an afterthought... I'm glad a few make it to scholarships at 4-year schools, but it's hard to be optimistic. You're really pulling for them (mostly, not all) as you're watching the show, just to go to class and get their act together, but they've been surrounded by adults making shitty choices their whole lives, it's as though their good-choice muscles never developed.

Found it impossible not to binge-watch.



November 17th, 2017 at 10:16 PM ^

In second season it was good for them to show a kid like Dakota Allen. By all accounts one of the few who takes school and his grades seriously. Yes, he was in a bad situation and got in trouble, but was really glad to see him pull his life back together.

Recently watched a Texas Tech game and was happy to see he made it back to their program and is playing.


November 18th, 2017 at 4:24 AM ^

I've never seen the show but having worked on the academic side of several colleges and universities at different levels (from NAIA to Big Ten), I have seen more than my share of football players who ain't there to play school (also some who are good and diligent students as well).  

I have seen some who are at their 3rd school (almost always due to off-field issues, usually academics), and I've seen many who believe they have a shot at the NFL.  They have no backup plan and no desire to earn a college degree. For a majority of the ones I see, they have really long odds of ever even sniffing an NFL practice squad, and it's really sad to see them deluding themselves.