(Late to the party, sorry) So are we at 3 or 5 alleged violations?
I've been swamped at work lately, so I apologize for joining the party late.
After reviewing the threads and content on this blog, I gathered that 1) the FreeP says we're at 5; 2) MGoBloggers naturally hate the FreeP; and 3) Brian says we're at 3 violations.
What doesn't make sense to me is that the allegations in Tim's document don't seem as few or innocent as what Brian posted in his thread. Is this a case of Brian not having all the info at the time of his post, or am I misreading the complaint?
February 24th, 2010 at 10:11 AM ^
From what I understand we're at 5 individual accused violations but only 3 "topics" per say.
1. Over practice time
2. QC staff helping out with practices
3. Lying from graduate assistant.
February 24th, 2010 at 10:14 AM ^
That's kinda my reading of it, too.
What I don't get are Brian's suggestion that one incident involved a QC staff getting involved in academics (it's be nice, because then we could play the "we care about school, so sue us") - instead, it sounds like they were running the informal practices.
Also, Brian or Tim suggested there was an issue with whether stretching counts as playing time - that doesn't appear in the allegation, either?
February 24th, 2010 at 10:17 AM ^
It's a gray area, as far as stretching goes. I don't think it's anywhere in the rules and the NCAA has never had to confronted the topic head on until now. I guess when the hearings happen we will find out what they think about stretching being counted as the practice time. I would assume that in our response to the allegations this would be one of the points.
February 24th, 2010 at 10:26 AM ^
Now, I don't know all the details, but apparently a grad assistant told the NCAA is wasn't at the practices, but allegedly was there???
If this is true, is this a far worse allegation than any of the others. Lying to the NCAA gets you in far worse trouble. As was brought up on cowherd's show, Des Bryant did nothing wrong, but lied about it to the NCAA and was suspended for the rest of the season!! Any parallels here?
February 24th, 2010 at 10:29 AM ^
...isn't going to be suspended. He's already looking for a job.
February 24th, 2010 at 10:29 AM ^
couldn't we just fire him and say "see, see, he was punished and we don't tolerate lying"?
February 24th, 2010 at 10:31 AM ^
We... did.
February 24th, 2010 at 10:33 AM ^
hey...go us!! woo!! With Dez Bryant, he was punished and not the school. I just don't really see how hard they could hit us for a GA lying to them when we fired him as soon as we knew.
February 24th, 2010 at 10:33 AM ^
2 of the charges are sort of reduntant catch-alls. they are against rrod and u-m for failure create an atmosphere of compliance (though not lack of inst. control) based on the underlying conduct of the first 3 charges
February 24th, 2010 at 10:39 AM ^
1. Practice Time over by up to an hour over on Sundays and an average of 2 hours a week (20 min per day)
2. QC guys at 7-on-7s, making sure players attend summer classes.
3. QC guy lied about being at 7-on-7s
4. RR didn't have a system setup to make sure they adhere to rules
5. The AD didn't have a system setup to make sure they adhere to rules
Any of these might be made worse by the fact that we were still serving time for the basketball stuff.
Solutions:
1. Explain grey area and how they changed their system so that this doesn't happen again in the future
2. Explain that the QC guys were at the 7-on-7s for safety/health reasons much the same way that Barwis can be there for weight lifting.
3. Fire Herron for impeding in the NCAA investigation. Make point of this and show that we don't support it.
4 & 5 go away with the others.
February 24th, 2010 at 10:42 AM ^
Summary: Five allegations.
Two are going to be tacked on no matter what the allegations, and as catch-all "violations" go, they're as minor as it gets.
One is the lying GA. Dealt with. Not going to be a problem.
One contains specifications like "punished players for not going to class" and "exceeded limits by 20 minutes" and "players exceeded voluntary workout times." Not going to be a big problem.
That leaves the QC staff doing the coaching, which is a problem. It's a definite no-no. But as no-nos go, it's still not the kind of thing they turn a program upside down for.
February 24th, 2010 at 10:46 AM ^
I admit to being a cynical bastard, and this may have already been brought up, but is it just a coincidence that there was a "Victor's Rally" the day before these allegations came down from the NCAA?
February 24th, 2010 at 10:57 AM ^
Brandon said in the presser they received this from the NCAA 24 hours ago. Maybe they knew it was coming but the Victor's Rally was a charity event put on by an alum.
