Decatur Jack

November 7th, 2016 at 12:18 PM ^

I used to like Herbstreit. He struck me as a very impartial guy. But lately he seems to be reverting back to his 2006 form where he just disses Michigan constantly.


"all Urban Meyer has to do is keep this young team focused when they play Michigan"

"Michigan's schedule hasn't been all that challenging, it turns out. We won't really know how good they are until they play that last game in Columbus."

"Michigan has a real test ahead of them that last week"

Those are the few that immediately come to mind. I love how he thinks all Urban and OSU have to do is "stay focused" but Michigan and Harbaugh have the most daunting task in the world ahead of them.



November 6th, 2016 at 7:09 PM ^

During the Louisville-Clemson game he was doing the Saturday OSU destroyed Rutgers and we beat Wisco, he said Michigan was not even on OSU's level. That the B10 was OSU and then everyone else. And also that Michigan was not in the same tier as Bama, OSU, Clemson or Louisville. Then he got in a Twitter war about it.

Now he's come around a bit, but he was pretty negative on Michigan relative to their ranking early in the year.


November 6th, 2016 at 8:11 PM ^

think there may have been good reason for that at the time. OSU looked like a monster and we were only a week or so out from an iffy outing against CU, who was still not like a ranked respected outfit at the time. He said we could "name our number" against State on Gameday and glowed about Speight this week. I just think he calls it like he sees it, and doesn't shy away from OSU praise when it is warranted even though he knows some people think it is partisan.


November 6th, 2016 at 10:23 PM ^

I agree with you 100%.  He's great, and only very rarely shows any bias.  But most around here just can't get over the fact that he went to OSU.


November 6th, 2016 at 7:24 PM ^

*gasp* A former Buckeye won't say Michigan is elite until Michigan beats OSU *gasp*

Let's have some moderated excitement here. The basis of his point is correct: our season comes down to OSU.  Beat them, we can make the playoffs.  Lose to them, we won't make the playoffs.

If you operate on the idea that you need to make the playoff to be elite (a fair assumption), then what's wrong with what he's saying?


November 6th, 2016 at 8:31 PM ^

Clemson returned most of the same team that was thisclose to winning the national title last year. They've earned some benefit of the doubt.

Meanwhile, Michigan returned most of the same team that only won the BDubs Bowl. Obviously Michigan is good, obviously they're top 4, but it's not weird for a national media pundit to be more willing to give Clemson the benefit of the doubt over Michigan at this point.


November 7th, 2016 at 1:33 PM ^

Got it. So cherry pick the logic for why Michigan shouldn't be included. 

OSU, 15 years. Not Clemson though, because their win % over that time period is .677 compared to Michigan .635. OSU's is better obviously so use that stat for OSU.

But just say Clemson was there last year. Ignore fact that half the starters are no longer on the team (just say they are, nobody will check it), Ignore the fact that this also doesn't work for other teams who made the playoffs (MSU...), or that that was last season.

Ignore other factors for why things might be different from the previous 15 years or last year.



November 7th, 2016 at 1:20 PM ^

Do you just make stuff up to try to prove your point?


Clemson returned most of the same team that was thisclose [sic] to winning the national title last year


Except you know, 8 defensive starters:

  • Mackensie Alexander, starting CB
  • Kevin Dodd, starting DE
  • Shaq Lawson, starting DE
  • DJ Reader, starting DT
  • BJ Goodson, starting MLB
  • Travis Blanks, starting SLB
  • TJ Green, starting FS
  • Jayron Kearse, starting SS

And also...

  • Zac Brooks, #2 RB
  • Charone Peake, starting WR
  • Eric MacLain, starting LG
  • Ryan Norton, #2 LG
  • Joe Gore, starting RT


If you consisdering losing literally half their starters (11/22) to be "most of the same team [returning]" then I don't even know what to think.



November 6th, 2016 at 7:53 PM ^

I hate saying this as much as anyone, but when you only lose 5 games in 5 years and win a national championship, good things should probably be said about you. He is allowed to say positive things without being a total homer.


November 6th, 2016 at 7:50 PM ^

This Michigan team deserves that credit. Osu gets beat by psu and the excuses come out of the woodwork. It took over half of a season for a small minority of analysts to start declaring Michigan as a legitimate playoff contender. Herbstreit is still riding the "we don't know if Michigan is good yet" train. If Ohio state was in our shoes Desmond Howard wouldn't be singing that tune in church on Sundays


November 6th, 2016 at 7:59 PM ^

Iowa did not suck last year, they made it to the B1G title game. They were not a top 8 team but they sure as hell didn't suck, and they don't suck this year either. The play the same crap Iowa football they always do, and the last 2 night games there I can remember are Denard playing as a freshman(disaster) and the Bellomy game(disaster) It would be an accomplishment to blow them out in Iowa on saturday night.