Kinda Interesting Jedd Fisch Discussion

Submitted by George Pickett on October 8th, 2017 at 10:48 PM

I realize there is no real reason for you to believe this, but I’m going to post it anyway because it’s true and somewhat interesting.

I was speaking with a good family friend of Jedd Fisch tonight.  According to him, Fisch was in line to be the next OC at Michigan and had already been in negotiations with Harbaugh at the end of last year.  He said they were both expecting Drevno to move back to California (I don’t know why).  When that didn’t happen, Harbaugh obviously couldn’t fire Drevno so Fisch left for UCLA.  Fisch desperately wants to be a head coach, and apparently he hates Jim Mora.  He’s privately hoping Mora is fired and the offense is good enough for him to be named the HC.

Take it for what it’s worth. 




October 9th, 2017 at 2:18 AM ^

Fisch is an interesting speaker as well. 

He's very unorthodox in his communication, but in a good way.

He's like the antithesis to "coach speak".

Would be weird if he somehow ended up back here....but then again, judging from the last 18-24 months of American life, apparently a-n-y-t-h-i-n-g can happen!

Here's to hoping!

LS And Play

October 8th, 2017 at 10:59 PM ^

If Harbaugh thought Jedd Fisch should be the OC and he's not because Drevno didn't move to California, that's deeply concerning. Loyalty over results. Things like that will keep you at 10-3. 


October 9th, 2017 at 12:17 AM ^

I still think Drevno is better than Borges. Drevno probably should be solely an OL coach but I’d still take this over Al’s horrible QB scouting and Cheesecake Factory cuisine bullshit.


October 9th, 2017 at 9:27 AM ^

Ya drevno isn't exciting as an OC but everyone must forget that we averaged 40 points a game last year and we weren't complaining. So borges isn't better. First 2 years were much better than borges. And Remember harbaugh has an OC, passing coordinator, and run coordinator. So who knows how plays are called in. Pep is new so he's scheme could be the problem. The 2 play books/ play calling aren't jelling well. It can't be 100% drevno when we did well last year.

Ecky Pting

October 9th, 2017 at 11:12 AM ^

Give Denard Robinson to Drevno and I think you'd find Drevno > Borges > Nussy.

Notwithstanding, this Offense is in a world of hurt as much because of a lack of experience and talent as a lack of schematic advantage and coaching. We've seen what this staff can do with experienced players who can execute reliably and not make mistakes as recently as last season. Yet, the loss of Fisch is not insignificant, and may have something to do with the offensive drop-off, at least in part. It makes one wonder if the replacement of Pep Hamilton and the addition of Greg Frey completely compensates...

Letting Drevno go/encouraging him to go west, and replacing him with Fisch may be worth considering, in so far as Frey has an established competency in cultivating an OL, which may be redundant with Drevno, so the downside risk at this point of such a move may be mitigated.


October 9th, 2017 at 7:48 AM ^

Nope...  And the offense showed a lot of improvement in those two years, also.  I don't know what the fuck happened this year.  But clearly, Drevno/Frey/Hamilton/Harbaugh << Drevno/Fisch/Harbaugh...

The offensive staff and philosophy needs to be fixed sometime between now and next year.  Now sounds good to me...


October 9th, 2017 at 9:33 AM ^

Our offense sucks this year. It ultimately falls on the coaches for not developing players, and play calling, but there are limitations this year. Couple of points

This year's line is a lot worse than last year's line. A solid right tackle may be all the difference. Maybe a left tackle would help too. We should have gotten Isaiah Wilson's sister a job. Frankly I don't get why lesser schools can build adequate lines out of lesser talent and we can't get our shit together. Will Ruiz/Filagia be better than Kugler/cole next year or are we doomed forever?

Speight?! WTF? Why did he regress so much? Was he ever good? Why aren't we getting our Ruddduock surge?

O'korn--looked good versus Purdue, but this week, even his completions were forced dangerous passes. MSU's defense is decent, so he might Be serviceable against lesser teams, but how bad is Peters if he can't beat out O'korn?

FR wide receivers. Tarik Blaxk going down sucks. DPJ will be good, but FR WR tend to need work.

Michigan seems destined to lose on Freak plays (Cordell Stewart, MSU 2015, MSU [91?], etc.) but not being prepared to compete has to stop. Harbaugh will get us there (and has), but this was a disappointing effort on offense.


October 9th, 2017 at 7:53 AM ^

Drevno's track record as an OL coach is tracking on HoF worthy.  He built Harbaugh's OL at San Diego, Stanford, and San Francisco - putting 4 of his 5 OL into the Pro Bowl in San Fran.  His one year apart from Harbaugh was making USC's (very) young OL perform very well in 2014.  His performance prior to Michigan has been stellar everywhere he's been.  He's earned Harbaugh's trust and loyalty through continuously excellent results.

Whatever is happening this year is not all on Drevno.  There's something going on in the coaches offices that isn't working well, and its translating to the field.


October 9th, 2017 at 9:09 AM ^

Great question!  And unfortunately, one that we can't answer because we don't know what's actually going on inside the Fort.  My take: he needs to decide on one OL blocking scheme - gap or zone (I'd prefer gap, since that's what they were doing the last two years) - and name one OL coach, one OC, and one WR coach.

WR is another group that has showed exactly ZERO improvement through the five games...


October 9th, 2017 at 8:54 AM ^

"He built Harbaugh's OL at San Diego, Stanford, and San Francisco - putting 4 of his 5 OL into the Pro Bowl in San Fran.  His one year apart from Harbaugh was making USC's (very) young OL perform very well in 2014. "


In San Francisco - he was co-OL coach with Mike Solari. San Diego, I can't find any stats for.


At his other OL coach jobs -


2 years before: 3.6 yards per carry
Drevno: 3.6 yards per carry

2 years before: 4.3 yards per carry
Drevno: 3.6 yards per carry


2 years before: 4.0 yards per carry
Drevno: 5.3 yards per carry


2 years before: 4.8 yards per carry
Drevno: 4.0 yards per carry


He may be a good OL coach, but I've seen no evidence he's particularly spectacular.




October 9th, 2017 at 9:06 AM ^

What were the circumstances with those other jobs?  Were they experienced crew, or young?  Did they have a good offense, or was it generally poor?  Did they have playmakers for that level?  Too many variables to rely on pure stats...  The simple fact is that Harbaugh has kept him near, and we all know Harbaugh doesn't suffer poor workmanship.

I don't know the answer.  But I don't think its all on one person - there are too many things wrong with the offense.