August 11th, 2010 at 1:07 PM ^
My prediction for wins just went by 2 for the lost of Turner, I was thinking 8-4, now I am at 10-2 after we just shedded some dead weight aka JT turner.
August 11th, 2010 at 1:10 PM ^
Yeah, let's get rid of a non-starter, and somehow that will help us win 2 more games.
August 11th, 2010 at 1:30 PM ^
he was a scout team player, at the end of last season. How the hell was he going to make an impact on the field other than getting hit during practice. Jesus christ you people are freaking out over losing dead weight.
August 11th, 2010 at 1:08 PM ^
It almost certainly won't happen. The Big 10 has a rule preventing a transfer from one Big 10 school to another and receiving an athletic scholarship from the second school... Justin Boren is not on scholarship at OSU.
August 11th, 2010 at 1:10 PM ^
Michigan-Highly-Touted-Recruit-Transfer-Hating-God is at it again.
Boren
Mallett
McGuffie
Turner
WTF
August 11th, 2010 at 1:08 PM ^
I am also amazed how much you guys are freaking out over yet another one of Lloyd's failed recruits. He was on the scout team last season.
August 11th, 2010 at 1:10 PM ^
I think it's the fact our secondary needed any help it could get.
August 11th, 2010 at 1:11 PM ^
He wasn't a Lloyd recruit.
August 11th, 2010 at 1:11 PM ^
- He was fully a RichRod recruit, signed in Feb 2009.
- Does Brian need to give you the mega-negbomb again? Or are you going to get a grip and take it like a man?
August 11th, 2010 at 1:28 PM ^
go ahead neg bomb me. I dont care. I fail to care about a scout team player, which is where he played at the end of last season. hell I trust all of the true frosh more than JT. You people need to wake up and realize JT's should have never been a 5 star. His attitude should have alone substracted 4 starts. he was a cancer in the locker room. He showed up last season out of shape and this season he showed up out of shape even more. He obviously didin't want to be here. He basically was dead weight. In my world you are either part of the solution or the problem. Good riddance. We can buy another tackling dummy. At least we don't have to pay tuition for those.
August 11th, 2010 at 1:53 PM ^
Double post by my stupid iphone
August 11th, 2010 at 1:55 PM ^
True frosh are better than a RS soph who takes off plays and refuses to put into the work that is reqiured to remain on the team. Notice how our secondary got better once Floyd started over JT.
Most upperclassman have seen their time on the scout team throughout their careers.
Really? Have any examples of starters who showed up to camp fat and refused to put in the work. I'll give you one. Gabe Watson.
August 11th, 2010 at 2:04 PM ^
True frosh are better than a RS soph who takes off plays and refuses to put into the work that is reqiured to remain on the team. Notice how our secondary got better once Floyd started over JT.
Do you even know who you are ranting about, or are you just spouting random crap? Turner was a RS freshman that has never been on the field, let alone taken plays off or improved the secondary by being replaced as a starter.
August 11th, 2010 at 1:50 PM ^
This is one of the dumbest comments I've ever seen in this board. You want true freshmen to start for us? Look how that has worked the past two seasons. Everyone has to pay their dues and put in the work. Most upperclassman have seen their time on the scout team throughout their careers. True freshmen are not what we need on the field.
August 11th, 2010 at 2:06 PM ^
I didn't say it was the best case scenario. Hoiwever, it is better than playing a player that takes plays off, refuses to put in the work. I would love to have upperclassmen at the position with the stipulation they put on the work. With JT's play and practice attitude he should have never touched the field. The coaches saw this and put him on the scout team to change his attitude. It didn't work. No loss here.
August 11th, 2010 at 2:20 PM ^
How can a player "take plays off" if he's never been on the field for a play? Do you attend scout team practices or are you just, you know, full of shit?
August 11th, 2010 at 2:34 PM ^
ANyone would know this if they read rivals (The Wolverine). Chris Balas was pretty clear why JT was on the scout team for his shitty attitude.
August 11th, 2010 at 2:12 PM ^
You are posting like a scout teamer today. Can't get anything right.
August 11th, 2010 at 2:35 PM ^
yawwwwwwnnnnnnn......
August 11th, 2010 at 1:11 PM ^
ugh I hate when players transfer, oh well, good luck in the future Justin. Lets hope someone can step up big in the secondary this year.
August 11th, 2010 at 1:12 PM ^
why we are still heavily recruiting so many DB's for next year. Maybe RR knew this was coming. Ya gotta trim the fat to make room for the meat. Crap. Now I'm hungry.
August 11th, 2010 at 1:16 PM ^
Well this just opens more doors for the 2011 recruiting class. I'm now praying for Dallas Crawford.
August 11th, 2010 at 1:39 PM ^
I'll be praying for Cullen Christian to have a Warren-as-freshman- esque season and for Doran Grant to come to Michigan
August 11th, 2010 at 1:18 PM ^
Look - As recently as yesterday, no one predicted Turner to start this year. At any position. Might he have helped with depth or special teams? Sure, but this has very little affect on 2010. Very little. We were hopeful for his future with the team, but that was going to be down the road a bit, we already knew that.
My .02 on the people telling him "Good luck" or "fuck that, don't tell him good luck." We don't know the full story behind this transfer yet. If it truly was that he was just lazy, didn't go to enough work outs because he thought he was a stud and now is pussing out because he's behind everyone, then yeah, he could probably go fuck himself and I'd be OK with it. But we don't know if that's the case, so let's hold out on those comments. As far as wishing kids who leave our program "good luck," I think that's reserved for kids who leave for reasons such as "they just weren't good enough despite trying hard" or "got homesick because of family reasons" or something like that. If a kid comes to UM, doesn't work hard and leaves because he's not getting the respect he thinks he deserves, than I'm OK with you leaving, but no good luck there. Sorry if that's too harsh for some of you.
The thing I find strange about this situation - why transfer 2 days into practice? Why not transfer a month before practice starts, then at least you can start training camp at your new destination. Why wait this long? I'm not sure Justin Turner even has his own best interests in mind when making his decisions, let alone UM's. I have a feeling there is something to this that we don't yet know.
August 11th, 2010 at 1:22 PM ^
He didn't get toasted by Hemingway until day 1 of practice.
His reaction? "Shit...better get the fuck out of AA..."
August 11th, 2010 at 2:31 PM ^
I had high hopes for Turner, but when I saw the end of the video of the first day of practice I cringed. I hoped that it was his worst play of practice, and Hemingway's best. However, it looks like I probably guessed wrong. Good luck to you JT.
-UMichGA
August 11th, 2010 at 1:41 PM ^
This is without question the most (really just about the only) reasonable and thoughtful post amidst all the Turner noise.
August 11th, 2010 at 1:47 PM ^
Could not agree with you more - every word you wrote. Especially agree on all the "good lucks" and "best wishes". If they don't want to be here I'm not spending another minute thinking about them.
I'm supporting the guys playing for Michigan.
August 11th, 2010 at 2:02 PM ^
But speculation is cathartic when faced with the unknown. Agree with your comments: many CB conversations on this board over the offseason either discounted him entirely, or assumed a move to safety
Why 2 days in? It could be as simple as he was lit up by RR for being out of shape, had a horrible 2 days of practice, and he let it get to him. Snap decision. When you're older, you know those typically don't work out. Not so at twenty
August 11th, 2010 at 1:21 PM ^
What could've been for 2010 Mich. Football. Sigh.
August 11th, 2010 at 1:24 PM ^
Grades could be an issue here - I'm not saying an issue like they could be for Mike Shaw - but I remember Turner having a hard time qualifying.
There is likely much more going on behind the scenes here (as WolvinLA mentioned - why transfer two days into practice?).
But, because of timing issue, I'm thinking grades have something to do with it.
August 11th, 2010 at 1:40 PM ^
I though Turner was qualified, he just couldn't pass the OGT, not that that is any better.
August 11th, 2010 at 1:32 PM ^
Those who stay will be champions. Go Blue
August 11th, 2010 at 1:34 PM ^
Give me a team of guys that bust their asses and would kill to succeed. That is reason Iowa and Wisconsin win year after year.
August 11th, 2010 at 1:37 PM ^
I like both. See: Roh, Craig
August 11th, 2010 at 2:34 PM ^
You do realize Wisconsin hasn't won a big ten title since 1999 and hasn't played in a BCS bowl since then?
August 11th, 2010 at 1:37 PM ^
Well, this sucks.
BTW, that was pretty awesome how earlier this morning, the MGoBlog community rose up as one and neg-bombed the hell out of TG7782 for committing the heinous crime of asking if anybody had heard about this yet. You guys all owe him one.
August 11th, 2010 at 1:40 PM ^
You do NOT bring up this stuff until there is some sort of verification. You don't yell fire in a crowded theater until you're damn sure there's a fire.
August 11th, 2010 at 2:05 PM ^
If I'm a crowded theater, I guess I don't have a problem with somebody mentioning to an usher that they smell some smoke, rather than waiting until it's an all out Inferno, but that's probably just me...
August 11th, 2010 at 2:11 PM ^
sounding off Tornado warning sirens until we actually see a tornado? But I thought they were supposed to help us incase there was a "high probability" a tornado could occur?
Give the guy some credit. He gave us some early inside info that sounded pretty unbelievable at the time, but turned out to be true....
August 11th, 2010 at 2:22 PM ^
August 11th, 2010 at 3:10 PM ^
PEER-REVIEWED SCHOLARLY ARTICLES FOR VERIFICATION OR BUST! /caps /sarcasm
Because he inquired about the rumor, rather than stating it as fact, he has no duty to provide published sources on the matter
August 11th, 2010 at 4:11 PM ^
They bombed me and all I did was post the info that I received via a text meesage from one of JTs close relatives about him leaving the program.
August 11th, 2010 at 1:49 PM ^
Are we going to be as Pro JT as we were Dorsey? Personally - I look at them both as being highly talented and putting in the required work to make it. Weight Room or Class Room, this is Michigan we're talking about.
Best of Luck to both, but that's as far as I go...
August 11th, 2010 at 2:04 PM ^
I go to the dentist for ONE HOUR and this is what happens! Geez.
We have no idea whether Turner was going to turn into the manbeast he was hyped to be, but it absolutely sucks that we won't find out.
August 11th, 2010 at 2:11 PM ^
What must do to placate Angry-Michigan-Cornerback-Hating-God??????
Haven't we already suffered enough????
August 11th, 2010 at 2:25 PM ^
"I'm talking about guys that play for Michigan." - Rich Rodruguez
August 11th, 2010 at 2:48 PM ^
Cut! (Love his tie though.)