brose

January 4th, 2017 at 4:32 PM ^

Great college QB, but I doubt he would even be drafted...I know people have been hating on him lately, but he is still really, really good and I fear he has another big game at the big house next year - hopefully in a loss.

ats

January 4th, 2017 at 7:02 PM ^

The problem was that they trained the running out of him.  In the playoff game, there were so many times he could of picked up an easy 5-10 yards if he'd run.  Worst thing you can do to a dual threat QB is to make them into a pure pocket passer, which is what OSU did.

Blueblood2991

January 4th, 2017 at 5:05 PM ^

Not sure why you're getting negged, but I agree. In 2014, when JT was thrown in for Braxton, he was a good passer but he was raw. The dude threw an awesome deep ball.

 Now after being coached by Tim Beck, he has managed to regress significantly the past two years and can't throw for shit now.

I gladly welcome back 2016 JT as a Michigan fan.

buckeyejonross

January 4th, 2017 at 5:31 PM ^

Something definitely went wrong when JT went from Herman to Beck/Warriner. 

2014: 34 passing TDs, 65% completions, 9 yards per attempt.

2016: 25 passing TDs, 61% completions, 6.7 ypa.

2015 is the interesting case study, because JT still had Elliott to hand off to and Mike Thomas to throw to like 2014, but both him and Cardale struggled mightily relative to their 2014 peaks. JT's ypa declined to 6.7 (the same as this season) and his % dropped to 63. Cardale's ypa dropped a full yard in 2015, and remember he put up his 9.8 ypa against Wisocnsin, Alabama and Oregon, not the non-con slate + PSU and IU he faced before getting benched in 2015.

Did both forget how to play QB? Or was Warriner in over his head calling a game and Beck just another cook in the kitchen corrupting OSU's offensive identity even further?

When I see Cardale, 'Zeke, and Darron Lee suggest a steep decline in game-plan/play-calling from 2014 to 2015 and '16, I tend to place the blame at the feet of the offensive braintrust and not JT.