August 9th, 2018 at 12:42 PM ^
Hey, when you have the immortal Ditka on the sidelines, every area of your team is the best there ever was.
Ditka vs. God in a golf match? Ditka, but it's close.
Trick question: Ditka is God!
August 9th, 2018 at 12:25 PM ^
Any word on how good Canteen's routes and footwork look?
August 9th, 2018 at 12:27 PM ^
God knows we're due for this to finally be true.
August 9th, 2018 at 12:30 PM ^
Yawn, preseason hype from a friend of the program is preseason hype from a friend of the program, believe it when I see it. It's been too long to do anything else.
This is NOT fake news Rabbit.
I can't remember the last time we had power inside like Bredeson-Ruiz-Onwenu
Runyan has been steadily developing and James Hudson is an angry beast.
The depth is there too with JBB, Spanellis, Chuck F and others.
August 9th, 2018 at 12:31 PM ^
MGoPitchforkcarriers, the quote says “over prior years” which is only stating that we anticipate less than three QBs injured throughout the season.
August 9th, 2018 at 12:32 PM ^
I'm pretty sure we've heard this every year for the last 10 years. Forgive me for taking this with a grain of salt.
With that being said, I do believe this O-Line will be much improved. We just need to see it against the competition.
August 9th, 2018 at 12:36 PM ^
Bonderman worked on his change-up.
Wings are going to play more young guys.
Lions are getting Stafford some help.
Raymar Morgan/Derrick Nix/Branden Dawson “get it” now.
August 9th, 2018 at 12:42 PM ^
This is like how every team that gets a new DC talks about how they are so much "tougher" and more physical than last year.
August 9th, 2018 at 12:43 PM ^
I feel like I've heard this same exact story about the o line from someone every year.
August 9th, 2018 at 12:44 PM ^
This quote is along the same lines as weirdo's predicting the end of the word every year.
August 9th, 2018 at 12:47 PM ^
Believe it when I see it
August 9th, 2018 at 12:47 PM ^
Jon Jansen is almost as excitable as Don Brown.
Glad to listen to him. Hope he is accurate.
August 9th, 2018 at 12:48 PM ^
If only there was some way to prove this in a month
August 9th, 2018 at 12:50 PM ^
The only piece of unconfirmed hype we have been mislead by more often than the Michigan OL is improving is that MSU is actually changing their rape culture for real.
August 9th, 2018 at 12:53 PM ^
When did MSU EVER say they were changing their rape culture?
Seriously.
Engler has said it to anyone dumb enough to ask.
Not really. I think by change he meant change for the better.... not simply willing to corner a represented victim without her attorney present and try and get her to waive her claim.
August 9th, 2018 at 12:50 PM ^
There's the story about how none of the OL could push the 900# sled in the winter and they all could in the summer.
There's some empirical data.
So Fuck you guys!
How many 900# sleds are on the schedule?
Well, we do play Rutgers, right?
August 9th, 2018 at 12:55 PM ^
Go listen to Jon Jansen's podcast for the content Rivals is reporting. IIRC, he basically said we will be able to see the improvement and implied we will be an OL that goes forward on contact instead of a push or moving backwards.
I like the details, and I don't mind buying optimism in fall camp :). I hope I never get so jaded as to not be able to enjoy it.
August 9th, 2018 at 12:56 PM ^
I used to get Phil Steele's CFB preview magazine to help me with a gambling pool. All I really remember in team previews was junk like "this team's OL underperformed last year but all 5 starters return" implying that they would just automatically get better by being older or having another year together ignoring the fact that they may in fact just suck.
Not equating UM's OL with that line of reasoning but it reminded me of it.
I think they have to get better if nothing more for the trade-off of conflicting Frey/Drevno schemes for just Warinner.
August 9th, 2018 at 12:58 PM ^
Jon Jansen the Fred Jackson of OL?
but faster.
and stronger. MUCH stronger.
I have always hated the 'I'll believe it when I see it guy' but it this case he would be totally correct. So, I'll believe when I see it.
"A tale as old as time..."
See also:
- Player X has added a ton of muscle
- Great chemistry between QB1 and Receiver Y
- This team is more physical in practice than in years past
- Highly-touted Recruit Z is poised to dominate now
2017
- Khaleke Hudson added a ton of muscle
- Great chemistry between QB1 and Receiver Y (Speight & Black were really good together until Black's injury)
- This team is more physical in practice than in years past (Our run blocking wasn't bad, the pass blocking was. Defense was physical)
- Highly-touted Recruit Z is poised to dominate now (DPJ, Black, Solomon all played wellish.)
What's worse, a shitty OP or thread shitting?
asking for a friend
For me, it depends:
Am I the OP or a poster in the thread?
Right. How many years have we heard this now? The new coach has simplified things etc. Time to shut up and win games.
Boy that's going to make his podcast awkward huh. You could shut up in his place though, that's an option.
Warinner will be this years Don Brown in terms of instant impact on the offense. I mean this dude built kansas' offensive line to be pretty damn good.
"Phenomenal changes" for an outfit that gave up 36 sacks last year (110th out of 129 teams) means maybe UM OL is back to baseline.
Which I guess given a mobile QB this year UM fans should or will be more or less happy with?
But the height and beef along the Michigan OL is pretty impressive though this fall:
LT Bushell-Beatty - 6-6, 318 lbs
LG Ben Bredeson - 6-5, 320 lbs
C Cesar Ruiz - 6-4, 319 lbs
RG Michael Onwenu - 6-3, 350 lbs
RT Jon Runyan, 6-5, 310 lbs.
Road-graders anyone?
If Michigan's offensive line improves significantly, yes, some of that credit may go to Ed Warriner, but I think a lot of people underestimate the impact of Ben Herbert, strength and conditioning coach. That too was a good hire by Harbaugh:
https://mgoblue.com/staff.aspx?staff=3710&path=football
Can we add a “blocking TE” in Filiaga? Higdon May get his 1,000yards in the OOC schedule alone.
Average of 324 lbs across the O line?
That's definitely the biggest ever, isn't it?
Is "phenomenal" said in a Jim Rome voice?
Wait and see mode. Heard this for years.
The hatin'-ist OL message board in the country.
Get bent, expected positive sentiment coming from a respected former player!
I actually am willing to drink the Kool aid here. Everyone thinks run blocking will be very good and the pass blocking, specifically from the tackles is the big question. Well this year we replace Mason Cole with a true tackle. The problem with JBBs pash blocking last year was mostly with stunts combining with Owenu (who we still hear has issues with assignments). Now you put him next to Bredeson who is considered probably the best lineman. I think that improves JBBs personal pass protection and the LT spot pass protection. Then on the right side I expect Kugler as a senior to be better than Ulizio and more capable of dealing with stunts than the JBB/Owenu pair.
Almost got 100% with that comment, but I'm pretty sure Kugler is gone. Looking like Runyan or Hudson at RT.
I agree with the JBB/Bredeson combo doing work on the left side, especially in the run game. Super excited for Ruiz in the middle, and hoping Onwenu has everything figured out in the passing game.
We're going to be an excellent run blocking OL this year. And with the mobility of Shea, and how bad our passing game was last year, I think we're going to improve just because there isn't anywhere lower to go.
Yeah oops I meant Runyan instead of Kugler.
People are confusing "general spring hype about something" with "OL panic aaahhhh" from past years or something. I don't remember anything coming out in spring in past saying this type of glowing thing about OL.
IDK where all the "I hear this every year that our OL will be awesome, prove it on the field..." is coming from. General "spring hype prove it"... sure, but not OL specific from my memory.
I'll believe it when I see it.
Just be decent, that's all. Honestly an average offensive line probably sets us up to score at will against lesser foes and for us to be dangerous against the good defenses in the B1G.
Let's get nasty, Ricky!
Is that notre dame standing on the tracks ?
Go Blue!