John Beilein's Naismith prospects

If Beilein wins it all, he’ll be in the Hall of Fame in short order. The man’s won at every level of college basketball. (Winning these two would give him 800 total wins, BTW.)

Are we talking about pre-NCAA scandal Beilein, where he was considered a HOF-caliber coach, or post-NCAA scandal Beilein, where he's considered a HOF-caliber coach who did it more ethically than any of his peers?

If he isn't first ballot, what with his examples of mentorship and reinventing the offensive game and basically defining ethical coaching, then the whole thing is a sham.

Is this really a debate? His accomplishments on the court stand alone. Now, he has become a larger than life figure as he is the cleanest coach in high major basketball. All of the scandal stuff has only increased his acclaim. He was named national coach of the year this year by CBS. The accomplishments and accolades continue to add up. Over 720 wins. Why do we all keep asking and acting like there is a mystery on whether or not he will make it?

What he has accomplished is brilliant at Michigan alone based on where this program was.

I would be interested in seeing a list of coaches who have been inducted recently and compare their resumes to Beilein's. Do that and you have a really nice diary to publish.

Will be sad when he finally retires, I love the adjustments he makes at half time.  His teams get better in the second half of the season.  He gets us through the football downtime, and if he gets into the HOF the first time he's up for it, there should be no head scratching.  He's earned it.

Yeah I'm in the at kind of mood, but I think with just a few more years at UM, he will be unquestionably a first ballot HOF.

And furthermore, I think he will go down next to Bo as a culture building prototype of the basketball coach. He will be immortalized in Ann Arbor and no coach will be respected more than him.

We are seeing a legend fully coming into his own

I have no idea what accolades are required for the HOF but in mine you have to win a national championship. Beilein has an easier grading scale for doing it the right way but he will need some more conference titles.

OP pretty much nails it. The run over the last 8 years at Michigan has pretty much made his induction a formality. You combine his success with his reputation, and there's little doubt he's not getting inducted. A title would change whether he'd have to wait a while like Lefty Driesell (someone with a pretty similar resume excluding Beilein's final fours) or gets in after a year or two.

HOF should be all about coaching, not best recruiters.  Nobody is better than JB.

at some point no matter what; but. . . would be nice

Once Beilein had a chance to build the program, he’s been as good as any coach in the country. Since the Novak/Douglass class graduated, Michigan has won 14 (and counting) NCAA tournament games (play-in doesn’t count). Roy Williams has 16 wins. K and Cal 15. Self has 14. Jay Wright 13. Don’t even have to mention who has even fewer. In the same time he’s produced 7 NBA draft picks, 6 in the first round. 5 of those guys were ranked outside the top 90 on the 247 composite. Dude is the best coach in college basketball and it isn’t particularly close.

Are we talking Naismith Basketball HOF?  If so, I think he is going to have to win a National Championship to get into that HOF. There are plenty of deserving coaches who haven't made the Naismith Basketball HOF because of that glaring hole in their resume, and some who may be less deserving who made it in only because of a National Championship. It covers all of basketball (NBA, NCAA, and International), and the voters are quirky and many foreign. Almost every coach I can recall getting in recently had one National Championship.

Bob Huggins, Bo Ryan, Gene Keady, & Eddie Sutton haven't really sniffed it yet. But Gary Williams is in. Nolan Richardson is in. Jerry Tarkanian is in so NCAA sanctions can't be the reason for keeping Sutton out. John Calipari is in despite leaving the rubble of two programs in his wake.

Steve Fisher, Rollie Massimino, Tubby Smith, and Jim Harrick are the only coaches in the last 30 years or so with championships that I can think of that are not in. Billy Donovan and Kevin Ollie are a little young, but I suspect Donovan will get in eventually.

He is a lock for the College Basketball HOF though.

EDIT: Lefty Driesell finally made it this year. So maybe there is hope for coaches without a National Championship. But it was a long wait for him.

He's arguably the best coach in America (along with Mark Few) that hasn't won a title. His results speak for themselves, but if he doesn't win it all before he retires, I'm not 100% sure he makes it in. 

If he wins on Saturday and Monday night, he's in. No ifs, ands or buts. Especially in an age of one-and-dones and rampant cheating in the game. Even if he doesn't win and still puts together several more strong seasons before he hangs it up (a Big Ten title or two and another Final Four), he'd still have a case to make it in. But the title is the one hole left in his resume.

That being said, even if he doesn't make it in ultimately, it doesn't diminish what he's accomplished. He'll likely end his career being the greatest basketball coach this university has ever had. Brought the program back from ruin and built it up to be virtually as strong as it ever was before the sanctions hit. 

IF we win it all no doubt I'll be super happy, but I would honestly be most happy by a long shot for Beilein.  If karma is a real thing I can think of no other that deserves the joy of winning it all and being at the top!

 

GO FUCKING BLUE!!!!!!!