Jehuu Caulcrick admits that he and his teammates took money while at MSU

Submitted by ThadMattasagoblin on September 21st, 2013 at 11:44 PM

Jehuu Caulcrick ‏@JehuuCaulcrick 9m
I don't understand y everyone is making a big deal over Arian Foster saying he got money while he was in college. News flash We all did.

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JHendo

September 22nd, 2013 at 2:30 AM ^

By definition, hacking is any unauthorized access to a computer, file or online account. Doing so through a script, spyware or some sort of algorithm program is just the way everyone likes to think of hacking. So, as stupid as people many sound when they say they've hacked when they had just ended up leaving their account up on a computer, they're technically correct.

Nosce Te Ipsum

September 22nd, 2013 at 12:00 AM ^

Why does it matter if these kids get some cash on the side? Perspective. Did they murder, rape, or rob someone? Who gives a fuck what some poor black kids got? The school uses their bodies for four years and then they dump them after they "earn" a degree that was more times than not handed to them because almost all of their teachers make consessions when grading their papers (talking to TAs from UofM is not recommended if you can't stomach the truth). If they're elite players the story is a little different as far as being taken care of by the team in the future. These kids need to be selfish and get what they can while they can. Work their asses off in school and expand their minds and focus more on that than anything else. It's a business no matter how much they tell you it's not. Wise up.

bronxblue

September 22nd, 2013 at 12:09 AM ^

I have absolutely no idea if you are being serious or not.  I'm guessing you are being "truthful" for whatever that means.

Athletes definitely get preferential treatment; that doesn't surprise anyone.  And the collegiate athletic system that treats them negatively does exist, but (1) not all football players are poor or black, and (2) they also receive numerous benefits most other people don't.  They get access to great schools, connections, and life lessons that few others are granted.  It isn't a perfect system, but the kids on the fringe academically who get a chance at college because of athletics may well benefit immensely from it if they try.  And by and large I think most college teams want their kids to do well in the classroom as well as on the field.  

Finally, I will agree that players getting compensation isn't the be-all, end-all of crimes, but at the same time they are told explicitly that their scholarship and eligiblity prohibits taking money, and that is a rule they have to abide by.  It may be a dumb rule, but so is parking on the street in my neighborhood Wednesdays between 9:00-10:30 am for cleaning.  And if you do park there while ignoring the numerous signs on the street, you get a ticket.  

Nosce Te Ipsum

September 22nd, 2013 at 12:23 AM ^

I wouldn't make the comparison to parking on a street. If you want me to explain why I will. The majority of college football players are black. Are all of them poor? No, but a case could be made for well over 50%. Too many corollaries to hidden slavery for me but then again most people are slaves, it just depends on what to. 

ChetChill

September 22nd, 2013 at 12:14 PM ^

Ok.  Slave: "someone who is legally owned by another person and is forced to work for that person without pay, "a person held in servitude as the chattel of another," "one that is completely subservient to a dominating influence." http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/slave?show=0&t=1379865969 Or: "Slavery is a system under which people are treated as property to be bought and sold, and are forced to work. Slaves can be held against their will from the time of their capture, purchase or birth, and deprived of the right to leave, to refuse to work, or to demand compensation. Historically, slavery was institutionally recognized by many societies; in more recent times slavery has been outlawed in most societies but continues through the practices of debt bondage, indentured servitude, serfdom, domestic servants kept in captivity, certain adoptions in which children are forced to work as slaves, child soldiers, and forced marriage." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery So you're contention is that a college athlete, who, by his choice alone, plays a sport and is compensated with a free education, room and board, tutoring, entrance into top academic schools and numerous other benefits associated with being a college athlete is a slave?  They are not owned, they may leave at any time.  They are compensated (to the tune of $200,000+ if they are out of state, $120,000+ if in-state).  Yes, perhaps you can argue that they lose the rights to their image or "work," so too do graduate students and employees of most companies.  They cannot be bought or sold (unless they agree to under the table payments...more compensation).  Perhaps YOU should look up the definition.  The hyperbole really hurts your argument.  Simplify it to allowing them to own their image, sell their rings, etc and you might have a valid point.

JHendo

September 22nd, 2013 at 2:01 AM ^

I know of a somewhat smaller (former) Big East school were it for a fact happened for basketball (not giving anymore details because it's not my place to do so). And by fact, I mean unsubstantiated hearsay as I heard it from a college athlete at one school who had heard it slip from the very well known athlete who was allegedly receiving the money at another school. Anyways, this can literally go on anywhere and I really don't want to even imagine at how many schools it actually does.

denardogasm

September 22nd, 2013 at 12:15 AM ^

I have a friend that's working towards becoming a sports agent and spent all last week hanging out with Tajh Boyd and said at one meal at a restaurant people were just laying 100s on the table. He said he picked up about a thousand dollars in an hour. I don't know how common this is across the country, but I think we all can assume it's pretty common at the big time schools.

Bando Calrissian

September 22nd, 2013 at 12:47 AM ^

I don't want to be naive about this and blindly assume that Michigan was different in this regard. But seeing the athletes on campus when I was in school during the late Carr years, I just don't believe these guys were anywhere beyond where any of the rest of us were. There weren't flashy cars and clothes, fancy jewelry or ostentatious spending. 

These guys may have had their girlfriends sign them in for evening film screenings now and then, or may not have gone to class all the time, but this wasn't a team in fur-trimmed jackets and tricked-out cars. That's just not what was going on.

Frankly, I don't think Michigan State was any different. If there was really any serious cheating going on, don't you think the results would have actually shown on the field in a dramatic way? They've shown improvement since JLS, but not blatant cheating improvement.  As much as I want to hate on Sparty, if you ask me, there probably isn't anything here.

Now, if we're talking OSU... We all know the score there.

tricks574

September 22nd, 2013 at 1:25 AM ^

College football is filthy, it's essentially rotten to the core because of the charade of amatuerism. Hell, Rickey Seals-Jones father had a chapter in The System about how his son was offered 6 figure pay days from schools, along with perks like season tickets and a steady, off the books stipend for him and his family. Now, I hate to trust just one source, but it's not like it's an isolated incident. From Oregon to Alabama, Okie State to Miami, it seems more and more major programs are caught with players who took payment from boosters. 

That leaves us in a tough spot, either Michigan somehow still manages to pull in very talented players that, at the age of 18, are willing to give all of that up, AND manage to avoid that temptation for 3-5 years, or it's probably happening at Michigan as well. 

Bando Calrissian

September 22nd, 2013 at 2:06 AM ^

True, but there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever there was ever any connection between the Ed Martin scandal and Michigan Football. Ed Martin was a basketball booster and connected with athletes through basketball alone. Period.

Bando Calrissian

September 22nd, 2013 at 4:31 PM ^

Sure there are, but they were never implicated in the aforementioned largest financial scandal in NCAA history.

And remember, "booster" in itself is not a term that describes someone breaking the rules. It's a formal term for pretty much anyone who buys tickets, donates to a university, or in any other way supports or represents an athletic program in a tangible way. A good chunk of us around here are "boosters" by definition. Ed Martin was a booster whose sport of choice was basketball. His interest and activities as a booster, however, were pretty egregiously against the rules.

See:

http://www.mgoblue.com/compliance/bo-who-is-a-booster.html

grumbler

September 22nd, 2013 at 2:55 PM ^

Thanks for the welcome dose of hilatiry.  You "sky is falling" guys with your "charade of amatuerism [sic]" sctick always make me laugh.  

The fact of the matter is that you don't have a clue as to what is actually happening to athletes on the overwhelming majority of campuses.  Are there some cheaters?  Sure.  We've had 'em at michigan, too.  Does the existance of cheating mean that the system is a charade?  No, no more than the existance of financial fraud means that the US economy is a charade.

But please continue to be emo and silly.  I enjoy it.