ILMichFan70

August 29th, 2011 at 10:28 PM ^

The concern is not if we wanted him. The concern is how good they are going to be after last years d-line recruits and the guys they have gotten so far this year. We're fine with our DT's with Pipkins and hopefully O'Brien but they're going to be pretty scary going forward.

BrewCityBlue

August 29th, 2011 at 10:34 PM ^

Wasn't looking at it that way but totally see that now and agree. 

I was just making fun of those types of fans who when a high ranked player commits elsewhere immediately disregard him as good or someone they wanted. 

Good thing our OL recruiting is going well so far, and should even get better with the addition of Banner/Garnett/Diamond/etc 

Farnn

August 29th, 2011 at 10:31 PM ^

Kelly seems to really be recruiting heavily on the defensive side of the ball.  Almost like he realizes that defense was the doom of Rodriguez and Weis.  Plus he can put together a solid offense with less heavily recruited players.  So he makes up for his defensive shortcomings by stacking the defense with good talent.

Gobluegr

August 29th, 2011 at 10:39 PM ^

ND says no to Schutt and yes to Jones (lower rated player on some sites)
Michigan says no to Schutt and is willing to say yes to O'brien (lower rated player)
This seems odd to me.

Irish

August 29th, 2011 at 10:48 PM ^

rankings aren't all they're made out to be.  When your coaching staff is happy, I could care little of what rivals grades the kid out as.  

I like Jones because he was top 3 at least on ND's board from the moment he was offered; I have no idea if he's a 3, 4 or 5 star on any of the recruiting sites until I read Ace's post on the weekend.

FreddieMercuryHayes

August 29th, 2011 at 10:49 PM ^

Hey, not very familiar with your D, but where are all these DT's and DE's projecting?  If I'm not mistaken, you run a base 3-4?  Are y'all going for ridiculous depth, or are they looking to run more situational 4 down linemen stuff?  Also, how many schollies do you guys have to give out this year?

The Lurking Irish

August 29th, 2011 at 11:33 PM ^

in this class - or ~ 7 more guys if every commit holds (which is just by the odds a slim chance).  ND mostly looking for skill guys now and 1-2 more OL. 

The DE thing is already sorting itself out as a lot of the DEs listed last year arent really DEs (Ishaq Williams, Ben Councell, Tony Springman, and I think either Rabasa or Carrico) there was a mix of DT, OLB and OL in that group. This year they seem to be filling the gap on true DL types, but I'm not sure all will end up at DE. I think thats part of the approach, to just take a lot of good athletes that can grow into/out of a number of positions in the front 7 or go to the OL. 

Some of it too is that ND wants to have a DL where they can regularly rotate 6-7 guys, so you will see a blend of "every down" type guys, and some situation rush or space eating specialists in there also.