Roughneck

May 13th, 2015 at 9:15 PM ^

This is just sad but I 100% agree with Jalen. I looked up to CWebb as a teenager but he just will not accept that he is at fault. The man is at least 40 years old and will not accept any responsibilities for the choices he has made in his life. Still thinks like a child.

BornSinner

May 13th, 2015 at 10:40 PM ^

Good luck especially after hinting at the fact that he may regret going to Michigan over MSU... 

That's some fuckboy shit. 

 

Jimmy King's take is very sobering on this issue. CWebb lied about being asked with 1 week to go on the doc. Something happened and he just bailed on the other 4 and is just feeling some type of way... This is ridiculous. 

 

http://www.detroitsports1051.com/ryanandricopodcast/2015/05/13/jimmy-ki…

Tater

May 14th, 2015 at 2:19 AM ^

It is Webber who owes the University an apology: not the other way around.  There has never been a Chris Webber mea culpa.  As long as he wants to blame everyone but himself for his own actions, I don't think he belongs in Maize and Blue.

Slamdo

May 13th, 2015 at 10:45 PM ^

18-20 year old men make mistakes.  Chris Webber did not want to lose the national championship nor did he want to call a time out that wasn't available. Jalen Rose did not start out thinking Chris was a bad person.   Jalen Rose and Chris Webber were both outstanding basketball players who were champions in their field of expertise, namely playing basketball.  They were truly amongst the best at what they do.  Any parent would be proud of both.  Both could be better in the PR arena and are learning as they go, as do all of us.  There is plenty of room for more than one expert. Chris Webber would have done himself well by being a bit more humble and admitting he did a few things wrong.  Jalen would have done better by acknowleding what he did right, but also what he could have done better, and leaving the judging regarding his teammate to others.  Ultimately, they and their teammates captured the national attention, and had a legacy which will live forever. I know many Michigan men who have done worse offenses.   I would hope they put their differencs aside and recognize that what they did was extraordinary.  Both are great Michigan men.

buddhafrog

May 14th, 2015 at 6:05 AM ^

I respect your sentiment, but I have to disagree.

Jalen wasn't overly negative at all about Weber in the documentary.  He was fair and explained a difficult situation giving some important points that helped explain and somewhat justify Weber's possible thinking at the time.  Jalen can't do anything to erase what Weber did.  That isn't Jalen's fault.

Weber is NOT CLOSE to the Michigan Man that Jalen is.  And by that I mean that Jalen speaks up for UM more than almost any other former athelete.  Jalen openly wears Maize and Blue often, speaking about it as his home.  Additionaly, Jalen has found success off the court and outside of business by being a major figure supporting Detroit youth.  He has been exceptional.

Weber, in general, had done none of these things.  I love Weber, played basketball against him, volunteered with him while at UM, and am not one of the people who wants him disassociated with the university.  But still, Weber isn't in the same league as Jalen when it comes to representing our university well.

Bando Calrissian

May 13th, 2015 at 9:21 PM ^

How many people spend this much time dredging up their latter teenage years in the national media? I mean, seriously. The Fab Five needs to realize they're now 40 year old men. They're reaching Uncle Rico territory with this crap.

Canadian

May 13th, 2015 at 9:47 PM ^

when it comes to a legendary Michigan coach who has an arena named after him it frustrates me how people who are fans cant get that right. I don't think someone who claims to be a Red Wings fan would spell the Wings home rink with "Lewis" in place of "Louis".

Fisher is more excusable but cmon hes the only coach to win a National Championship for the basketball program.

 

Canadian

May 14th, 2015 at 9:50 AM ^

That was what I thought he meant by it. Never thought we were views as "chill, laid back people" though. Thought that was more California folk. Polite and respectful is more what I thought you guys thought of us. And let's not forget the bagged milk

Gulogulo37

May 13th, 2015 at 10:08 PM ^

Jalen Rose breaks silence? Webber just made these comments yesterday (or earlier today, my timing is off since I live abroad).

I'm listening to the interview of Jimmy King linked in that article right now. A good listen for people who don't like Webber and Rose are saying since he's being more measured about it all. Everyone sees it as a thing between Webber and Rose because that's who we hear from, but from the interview, the other 3 all agree with Rose.

buddhafrog

May 14th, 2015 at 6:12 AM ^

It could also mean that Jalen finally broke his silence about Weber in general. He was always careful about what he said about Chris.  He clothed all his words in brotherhood and not laying too much blame on him.  He generally spoke with respect about Weber (even if it wasn't deserved).  

But Chris called Jalen a liar and tried to tarnish the documentary - a piece of work I'm certain Jalen has a lot of love and pride about.  Jalen had to respond.  And he chose to say what he truly felt.  In that sense, for the first time he spoke openly and negatively about Weber.

ijohnb

May 14th, 2015 at 1:29 PM ^

not have to go with "traveled and called time out" though.  First off, that play happens because Rose did not come to the ball, second, it is just low and irrelevant.  The rest of what he said is on point, but I think that particular comment was childish and beside the point.

goblue16

May 13th, 2015 at 9:24 PM ^

I agree with Jaylen. No ones blaming Chris stop being a little bitch and man up. They admitted their mistake in the documentary and they mentioned many times that none of them blamed Chris. As I recall they only criticism of Chris was that he threw Ed Martin under the bus by saying he was taking advantage of young players by offering them money

BornSinner

May 13th, 2015 at 9:24 PM ^

"One dude traveled then called timeout. One dude lied to grand jury and hasn't apologized. One dude tried to circumvent the documentary to HBO. One dude ignored multiple requests from everyone involved after agreeing to participate. One dude played like (President) Obama and sat in a suite during Michigan's recent title game. One dude slandered Ed Martin after all he did for him and his family. One dude is not in contact with the other four (which is all good). One dude has been doing a rebuttal doc for four years. One dude clearly is delusional and still in denial," Rose said of Webber in messages to Larry Brown Sports.

"Congrats on your amazing success! Respect had no price. Man up."

 

 

BornSinner

May 13th, 2015 at 9:27 PM ^

I wouldn't say bitter, moreso mad at Webber for calling him out as if Rose was making the documentary all about himself. If Webber wanted to set the record straight, he should've just been on the god damn doc himself. 

Webber's book is on some stupid George RR Martin time frame in terms of the amount of years it's taking for him to write this shit. 

Ugh... 

MichiganPoloShirt

May 13th, 2015 at 9:33 PM ^

I dont think Jalen was bitter by making the comment about traveling and calling timeout, I think he was basically saying what everyone is afraid to say. I remember watching that game and when he traveled the ref didn't notice so he called the time out. I thought he was intentionally throwing the game until I saw the documentary saying the bench was heard yelling for him to call a timeout. All these years I really believed that we were supposed to win that game. I also know this is a very taboo subject.

ghostofhoke

May 13th, 2015 at 9:35 PM ^

Are you kidding? They've backed and protected him for 20 yrs and this is how he shows his appreciation by talking shit? Screw Webber, they don't owe him anything at this point. They've been the best teammates anyone could ask for--especially someone in his position and he still finds ways to jilt them. They have more than upheld their end of the bargain and at this point it's more than ok for them to air their frustration over what he cost them (regardless of what a major part he played in them getting there in the first place, blah, blah, blah)

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UMfan21

May 13th, 2015 at 9:50 PM ^

Agreed.  Rose's quote would have been MUCH stronger without that.  It was a mistake Webber made in the heat of the moment. More or less a reaction to the bench, crowd, situation, whatever.

The rest is a list of mistakes and poor decisions Webber has made in his life.  Conscious decisions.  Completely different than the timeout.