MaximusBlue

May 31st, 2014 at 10:23 PM ^

I'm pretty sure those other guys are fast but damn. That's embarrassing to get smoked like that in the 100. The margin of victory that he wins his track races is unbelievable.

chatster

May 31st, 2014 at 10:36 PM ^

New Jersey's state high school track and field championships are divided into several groups. Paramus Catholic competes in the large-school Non-Public Group A. Besides his win in the 100M (10.52 seconds) in which he beat former Michigan football recruits Minkah Fitzpatrick of St. Peter's Prep who finished second and Fitzpatrick's teammate Jonathan Hilliman who finished fifth, Jabrill Peppers also won the Non-Public Group A 200M Dash in 21.48 seconds and ran the third leg for the Paladins' 4 x 100M relay team that won the event in 42.58 seconds.

The times for the other New Jersey State Group Winners (public school groups are ranked from the largest in Group 4 to the smallest in Group1):

100M Dash: Public 4 (10.85 sec); Public 3 (10.76 sec), Public 2 (10.64 sec), Public 1 (10.68 sec), Non-Public B (10.98 sec)

200M Dash:  Public 4 (22.28 sec),  Public 3 (22.06 sec), Public 2 (21.87 sec), Public 1 (21.67 sec), Non-Public B (21.99 sec)

The New Jersey State High School Meet of Champions will be held on June 4. In last year’s State Meet of Champions, Peppers won the 100M dash in 10.8 seconds and the 200M dash in 21.13 seconds.  The New Jersey State records are 10.35 seconds in the 100 and 20.93 in the 200. 

Wolfman

May 31st, 2014 at 10:58 PM ^

I saw a Wheatley reference in this thread and I believe whoever posted it was spot fucking on. If this young man were to come out of the backfield with the holes that woud be available for him because........well just because the OL knows who's behind them and they would be afraid to not produce, it would be very reminiscent of one Mr. 6. Of course, we will not use him in that way, but more-than-likely in the manner we used Charles, with a much larger number of reverses and such that he could operate in the open field to reduce the chances of injury.         ^Woodson, as we are all aware was an AA h.s. RB, as was Ty.  However, Woodson for all his unwordly talent, would have been about 5 yds behind this young man in that particular race.  While I was coming of age there was a db from OSU who later became known as "The Assassin" in the professional ranks. I do believe this kid will produce very similar hits and with his combination of size and speed, within two months of being coached at this level,and within 6 months of strength training at this level, the young man should become aboultely unbelievable and will join the ranks of a very select few at Michigan whose feats can be recalled by using just their first name.  They are, of course, Tom, Mike, Tyronne, Desmond, Charles, Denard, Mark, Bennie, Jamie and Anthony.            ^If it weren't for my new residency south of the border, I'd definitely make weekly plans for AA for all home games.  The positive, however, is it's much closer to the bowl game venues from here, and I won't even attempt, because I couldn't do it,  to explain how excited I am based on potential alone.  No, that's not entirely true. Hell, we've all watched the kid play football. We got the Real McCoy here. Welcome to AA Mr. Peppers, welcome.

MGoStrength

June 1st, 2014 at 9:53 AM ^

I just wanna say this beacuse of all the Charles/Jabrill comparisons.  As highly talented as Peppers is and as fast as he is, there will only ever be one Charles Woodson.  No one is ever gonna match what Charles did at UM...EVER!  His situation, the time he played in, the players and coaches he played with/for, etc. was all unique.  He was a once in a lifetime player.  This was a guy that was the best athlete on an NFL field and never even worked out or lifted weights until later in his career.  I will be the first to admit that Peppers may be more muscular and even faster.  Peppers has this amazing aura to him, he's confident, he's charasmatic, etc.  But, he loves to train, run track, lift weights, etc.  And, that's not a knock on him but Charles never did any of that was still lights out the best player on the field.  And, Jabrill is not 6'1", Charles is 6'1".  Anyone that believes Charles and Jabrill are the same height they are crazy.  I am super excited about Peppers so I don't want to sound like I'm knocking him.  I think he is gonna be awesome and do some great things at UM.  But, if you think his teams are gonna beat OSU 3 straight years, UM is gonna win a National Title while he's there, and that he's gonna win a Heisman you're crazy.  All those things went into why Charles Woodson was so special to us and I'm sorry but he is not Charles.  And, it's not fair to put that on him.

 

LB

June 1st, 2014 at 12:17 PM ^

in spite of your post, Peppers wants to come to Michigan and show us what he can do in person. In 20 years, I hope Jabrill Peppers is part of every conversation when todays youngsters (all the 30-somethings) wax nostalgic.

Charles Woodson, being Charles Woodson stated this about expectations:

“I was a (talented) athlete, and there were some things I had naturally, and I also had the mentality I was going to go out there and be the best,” said Woodson, who in 1997 became the only primarily defensive player to win the Heisman Trophy. “The expectations that people have for you, you already feel like you’re going to do those things, so the expectations and the pressure doesn’t mean anything. “That’s what I would see Jabrill coming in that mold, a guy who already sees himself as going to be great.”

MGoStrength

June 1st, 2014 at 12:46 PM ^

I totally agree they are in the same athletic and confidence mold.  But, to say Jabrill will do what Charles did is quite another story and I won't go there.  I mean if we think that we are saying that UM is going to go into Columbus and win next year.  If he's gonna be the best athlete on the field we're saying he's a better athlete than Braxton Miller.  Anyone thinking those sentiments are true and will happen?

Raymond Reddington

June 2nd, 2014 at 3:56 AM ^

Let me explain: as to the false/true dichotomy, Devin Gardner and Jabrill Peppers are better athletes than Braxton Miller, not just Jabrill Peppers; as to the no/yes dichotomy, one needs to incorporate DG as the superior QB/athlete into the equation with JP in order to see the 14 point  victroy Michigan will post against the Buckeyes come this November.

MGoStrength

June 2nd, 2014 at 9:40 PM ^

This begs the question of what an athlete is.  To me athleticism is a combination of things like running, cutting, changing directions, jumping, throwing, catching, strength, power, motor control, hand-eye coordination, and the ability to react quickly to unpredictable situations.  I will give DG the nod on throwing and catching as he's a better passer and heck, he played WR.  But, there's no way in hell you can say he can compare to Braxton in the other catagories.  Braxton is bigger, faster, stronger, more agile, more powerful, and is more unpredictable with the ball in his hands as a runner which means he has better reactions.  Braxton is almost un-tackle-able one-on-one in the open field.  Very few players I've ever seen with the exception of guys like Michael Vick and Barry Sanders can start, stop, and change directions on a dime the way Braxton can...and at 220lbs.  IMO Miller is by far the better overall athlete even though Gardner is the better passer.  Just ask if you think Peppers can tackle Braxton one-on-one in the open field.  IDK maybe he can, but that's a tall task for anyone.

Frito Bandito

June 2nd, 2014 at 9:51 PM ^

Where has this Braxton Miller mythology come from? A weak schedule and the ability to hit wide open receivers makes you elite? How many of these types have fallen to the 5th round and below? The kid gets taken off the field twice a game from taking too many hits. He's nothing more than a poor man's Troy Smith. Yes, I said it. He's not even close to Troy's ability. He won't be anything other than a 6th place Heisman QB in his lifetime.

Btw.. Stopping and changing direction. You haven't seen a player better since Barry or Vick? Denard was much more elusive than Braxton. It's not even close.... Are you drunk?

MGoStrength

June 3rd, 2014 at 6:50 AM ^

I didn't say anything about how good of a QB he is.  I am talking merely about athletic ability.  I agree that he has a limited ability to play QB in the NFL, but I don't know what that or his potential draft status has to do with my argument.  Again, I'm talking about his athleticism, not how good of a QB he is.  Denard was obviously fantastic with the ball in his hands too.  I think Denard was faster straight ahead and probably had better acceleration.  But, he's not as big, strong, powerful, nor has as good as start/stop and change direction ability IMO.  So, I still see Braxton as the better athlete.

NoMoPincherBug

June 1st, 2014 at 2:38 PM ^

You are correct in that there is only 1 Charles Woodson, and his accomplishments may never be equaled.  However your post comes off as a clear Diss on Jabrill.   There is no reason to make that comparison that you are trying to make at this point.  Also, if you think Woodson never lifted, you are dead wrong.

One other thing...in that photo, Chuck is in the foreground and Jabrill is clearly slouching, turned to the side and clearly in the background.  He may very well be 6-1.  We will see this fall.

UMfan21

May 31st, 2014 at 11:25 PM ^

Hard to tell on my phone, but it looked like his start was a little slow. He really accelerated the entire 100m while the others seemed to top out around 60m

kjason

June 1st, 2014 at 12:25 AM ^

So exctied to see what Peppers can do.  He may not play football, but I am making sure that this little guy bleeds blue like his dad.  GO BLUE!!!

theguy49503

June 1st, 2014 at 11:16 AM ^

This dude is a created player with all his attributes at 99ovr lol. Not saying he is going to win the Hiesman, be an AA or all Big10 but he will make his presence know and leave his mark before its all said and done! He will not be good or great, he will be special!

Michigania

June 1st, 2014 at 11:43 AM ^

but doesnt living in warm weather and the chgs in body temp, etc, make one faster? At the very least it allows more time to stay in better shape. i did a summer term at UCLA btw my frosh and soph yr in Ann Arbor, and while there I seemed to in way better shape, like being able to dunk a volleyball but back in ann arbor and the cold, i couldnt do it

FreddieMercuryHayes

June 1st, 2014 at 12:40 PM ^

And Patrick Peterson's best time in high school (as far as I could tell) was 10.92. The South has nothing to so with it. A 10.52 may not win the state because they have a lot more dedicated sprinters than NJ. But running a 10.52 at 205-210 lbs is still freakishly impressive for not a full time sprinter. No matter what state it's from.

Raymond Reddington

June 2nd, 2014 at 4:11 AM ^

Jabrill Pepper's PR of 10.51 being "a full second", and  again "almost a full second" slower than the State of Florida record of 10.01.  Really?  Looks closer to a half of a second, right?  Also, the top two times in the nation for high school boys this year are 10.27 and 10.28.  Both athletes are from Florida, and being that they are competing now, it's more relevant to say he's just over 2/10 of a second behind the top 100 meter sprinters in the country.