It's not just Hoke

entire program needs an enema

There is no reason why it should take 10 years to right this ship.  We have at least some young talent on this team, and a competent coach could take advantage of that immediately.

If you think Brandon is hurting the team from scoring, blokcing and tackling you're out of your mind. He's hired the most expensive coordinators M has ever had.

He could have brought in Miles.  That would at least be better than this crap.  The egos and the pompous asses that have run this program for the 10 years are at fault.  And yes, that includes Lloyd Carr.  If they would have hired Miles instead of Rodriguez we wouldb't be here now.

This program is dying.  We are lower the MSU, ND or even PSU.  Hell, the only team we can beat in the state is probably EMU and thet would be a dog fight.

 

Hoke, Brandon, Mattison...fire the whole lot of them

 

has anyone ever deprogrammed themselves from being a fan of a team.  as a of right now i would just like to be a casual fan and enjoy watching games and not caring who wins.

Hoke is the person in charge of the team. When you are making the kind of money he is and the product on the field looks pathetic, the head coach is the fall guy. This team has top 20 talent and they are playing like a MAC team.

I agree with this. He has obviously got to go but there's a lot more wrong with this program. It started during the Carr era, perhaps before. Actually is may have started about 45 years ago. No idea how to fix it, it needs to be proverbialy burned to the ground.

This is exactly my feeling. The entire program is the ill. The coaches and AD are just the symptom that result from it.

This program has deteriorated to something awful. It's sad to see especially because it doesn't look like it will get better at all. No light at the end of the tunnel.

I've always been more of a traditionalist, but tradition is for museums. I agree that the program needs an overhaul and it should start ASAP.

May not be "just Hoke" but Hoke unquestionably needs to be fired.

Neither of those first two points have anything to do with playing football. 

I'm just.. Sad. I know we as fans deserve so much better. But don't the kids deserve better than this? A Michigan team hasn't seen the Rose Bowl since 2006. This entire program deserves better.. And I just don't see it getting better under this current staff.

This isn't on Brandon.  He has ponied up the money for the best assistants money can buy.  It just isn't working for some reason

The Biggest problem is Hoke. Brandon just has to hire the best canidate and this thing will get fixed in no time.

Young talent!! Go ahead and keep calling for Brady Hokes head and the last two top 10 recruiting classes will be depleted and it will set the program back another 5 years. I don't know what the answer is either but if they fire Hoke and lose half the team are you really any better off? Devin Gardner is not a pocket QB. Idk it's all just very painful.

I agree we are years and new coaches from being contenders again. I hope I live to see it

Brandon is Beilein's AD. The basketball program was a joke, and Coach B turned it around. I love Hoke, and I love Gardner. Unfortunately, they are both not very good at football.

So we need to fire both Hoke and Brandon.  I'm totally fine with this.

In the meantime, we need to give Nussmeier an audition and see if we can find lightning in a bottle. 

Like I said in the other thread, it's a program wide problem. 

The Michigan football of the last century is dead. The past is dead.

We need to as fans, as donors, as influential people, say enough is enough. It's time to put the past aside and build toward a new future for Michigan football.

It's time to stop clinging frantically to tradition and the past to the point where it simultaneously becomes a crutch and smothers the future of the program. 

We need to stop using "tenuous connections to Bo" as any sort of a prerequisite for head coach, let alone the top one. 

We need to clean house, get outside of the confines of this decrepit program, outside of our comfort zone, and find the best people for their respective jobs. We also need to shut the hell up at that point, stand in unison, and get behind those people.

Platitudes like "Those who stay will be champions," "This is Michigan fergodsakes," and "A Michigan man will coach at Michigan," are all well and good, but they put no points on the board. They don't give you a competitive advantage. They are utterly meaningless in the context of winning football games. 

Platitudes and traditions are fine as a part of your program, it's when they become your program that you have a problem, and we have a whole lot of problems. 

They all have to go and it starts with the AD.

You can say the basketball program has done well under Brandon, but basketball program is not like the football program at all.

While we have been historically pretty good at basketball, there have not been years and years of the same people around it.

Football is a different story. Everyone in the athletic department that thinks their way is the only way has contributed to this toxic enviornment. Undermining and making decisions about the football program when they have no business doing it (I'm looking at you LLOYD). We really need to just clean house because nothing will change until they're gone.