If you can't get in to OSU, there's always Georgia...

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2015 OL Mirko Jurkovic originally signed with the bucks, but was denied for academic reasons. Instead, he was happily accepted at the university of georgia, where it would appear to take little more than a pulse to gain admittance.

We talk and speculate a lot about academic admission criteria, but this is a pretty strong case for even the worst B10 schools being superior to the SEC. No real surprise I guess, but still kind of interesting...

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/09/ohio-state-signee-o…

DrMantisToboggan

July 13th, 2015 at 2:52 PM ^

They may have different standards for athletes, that I can't attest to. However there is less of an academic gap between Georgia Tech and Georgia than there is between us and Little Bro. Their undergrad is admittedly average, but they have solid grad schools. As a prospective student I can tell you that their law school is always ranked in the top 30 or 25, depending on which rankings you go off of.

Blue In NC

July 13th, 2015 at 3:09 PM ^

Are you talking about Florida or Georgia for law school?  Personally, I have never seen either mentioned that high but I assume you mean Florida for law school.

Edit: after looking I see you probably mean UGA which is listed at #31 on USNews.  That surprised me as I had never seen it close to that level but maybe it has improved.  Certiainly, Emory is the top law school in that area but that's a decent showing for UGA.

ak47

July 13th, 2015 at 5:12 PM ^

Thats not really true for graduate schools.  In state tuition (as in just straight tuition) at michigan $26,367 for in state $27,867 for out of state.  You save a whopping $1,500 a year.  Harvard on the other hand is $57,200 so going to public school over private might make financial sense. As far as I can tell Georgia in state is a litte over $19,000 for in state.  My guess is people aren't making the decision to stay in state in Georgia vs going to Michigan because of $7,000 a year but maybe I am wrong.

Maison Bleue

July 13th, 2015 at 3:21 PM ^

My guess is Urbs had get to 85 scholarships and this is what happens due to oversigning. I would bet he would find a way to get him in if he was a 5 star stud everyone was drooling over.

That's right I said stud.

 

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Check this out. LINK It's an atricle from April on cleveland.com explaining how OSU plans to get to 85. From the article:

 

Also, a source said that one other Ohio State player who committed to this incoming freshman class did not meet academic eligibility requirements set out for him in December and won't be part of the team this year, though it's possible he may enroll in the future. And one other member listed as part of the 27-member Class of 2015 in February is expected to grayshirt. That move would have the player enroll in the winter, after the season, and not count against the scholarship total now.

LSAClassOf2000

July 13th, 2015 at 3:02 PM ^

The AJC's article on the subject can be found here - LINK

Naturally, as is normal in these situations, the explanation is crystal clear:

“I don’t know what all went on there behind the scenes there. It just kind of was what it was. I don’t know. I wasn’t admitted to Ohio State. That’s all I know"

They did work in a jab for their former SEC foe Urban Meyer, questioning whether it was academics or if Meyer simply ran out of available scholarships. 

oriental andrew

July 13th, 2015 at 6:23 PM ^

It could also just be a function of the way admissions standards are done at various schools. Maybe a difference of interpretation of the validity of certain classes or grades or timing of when he took a standardized test or which test(s) he took or correspondence courses or timing of when he submitted paperwork or whatever. 

Doesn't mean he's not academically capable of attending osu, or even Michigan, for that matter. It could've just been a technicality.

 

JOHNNAVARREISMYHERO

July 13th, 2015 at 3:03 PM ^

MSU is a lot worse academic wise as opposed to Ohio State.  In fact, they are in the bottom 2 in the conference.  Everytime there is a recruit with grade issues, its never an issue to MSU.

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GoWings2008

July 13th, 2015 at 3:17 PM ^

I was wondering the same thing if the OP is implying that "even the worst B10 school..." applies to osu.  Academically, even though not quite on par with Michigan, osu is a very good school.  Not getting into there for academic reasons isn't that big of a stretch...if he's anything like Dorsey.

HarbinDarbin

July 13th, 2015 at 3:09 PM ^

He couldn't get into Notre Dame either . This looks the the SEC once again taking a dumb kid because he's good at football. 

MBloGlue

July 13th, 2015 at 3:28 PM ^

I suggest we have a conversation about academic standards without making personal judgments about the intelligence of the student athlete involved.  There are plenty of factors unrelated to intelligence that can explain a student's high school academic peformance. 

cookie1012349

July 13th, 2015 at 3:25 PM ^

As an alum of UGA I feel I have to stand up for my adopted home. UGA's academics have improved a lot over the past 15 years. They have kept a lot of talent (academic not football) talent instate because admission is close to free with the HOPE scholarship. That is actually why I choose UGA over Michigan. Terry is an excellent business school and their law program is great as well. They are just not quite at the level of Michigan

ak47

July 13th, 2015 at 3:34 PM ^

When I found out UGA had the #4 graduate program for public administration it was surprising to say the least.  Girlfriends family is all from Georgia so it will probably be on the list when I'm applying to public policy/public administration schools.

HAILtoBO

July 13th, 2015 at 3:29 PM ^

I honestly am sick of hearing about this crap. We are talking college football. Some kids go to school for an education. Some kids go to a school for their NFL résumé. No matter what at the end of the day, if you perform in the classroom or you perform on the field colleges still do not provide you with a guaranteed job. They only provide you with a diploma or a weight room with an extreme slim chance for a professional career. Universities are just another form of a business.



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ak47

July 13th, 2015 at 3:51 PM ^

According to US news which is whatever but an easy baseline OSU is the 18th best public school in the country and Georgia is the 20th, not a huge jump there in terms of the actual academics he will receive while there. Florida and Texas A&M are also in the top 25 of pulbic schools (which is all that really matters here, if it was strict academic rankings, Stanford, Duke, Northwestern etc would be top 10).  Plentyt of schools in the sec are in the same academic grouping as big ten schools.

nwmustelid

July 13th, 2015 at 4:27 PM ^

Here are B1G and SEC world university rankings according to https://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2014/w…

 

18 Michigan

22 Northwestern

30 Wisconsin-Madison

46 Minnesota

49 Pennsylvania State

59 Ohio State

62 Purdue

83 Michigan State

88 Vanderbilt

103 Rutgers

108 Maryland, College Park

128 Florida

132 Indiana

159 Texas A&M

161 Iowa

191 Illinois at Urbana-Champagne

251-275 South Carolina

251-275 Nebraska-Lincoln

276-300 Georgia

301-350 Missouri

NR Alabama

NR Arkansas

NR Auburn

NR Kentucky

NR Louisiana State

NR Mississippi

NR Mississippi State

NR Tennessee

 

The Times probably credits English schools highly, but it should be neutral among US universities. It only ranked down through (in its opinion) the best 400. B1G has eight ranked higher than the isloated best in the SEC; B1G's worst is better than 10 SEC teams.

caliblue

July 14th, 2015 at 8:43 AM ^

more or less the general outline of USNWR list but some surprising differences and outliers. For example UM UCLA and UVA are all clustered in that one but not here. Of course some of the USNWR criteria are financial aid and other non academic factors which I doubt are taken into account here. A big surprise to me is how badly the Ivy League does in this list ( relatively ) vs every other list I have seen

Feel The Strength

July 13th, 2015 at 7:52 PM ^

I live in Nashville and one of my best friends is a Vanderbilt alumn. He's quite possibly one of the smartest people I know, and he makes a lot of money. There's no way that school is only ranked 88th.

Zoltanrules

July 13th, 2015 at 8:41 PM ^

25% ile to 75% ile of students from 2013 (yeah I know these have changed a little - for everyone)

1. Vandy 32-34

2. NW 31-34

3. Michigan 28-34

4/5. Illinois/ Florida 26-31

6/7/8. Wisky/ OSU/Georgia 26 -30

9. Minnesota 25-30

10/11 Purdue/ Auburn 24- 30

12 Penn St  25-29

13/14 S. Car/ Indiana 24 -29

others

Tex A & M 23-29

Ark 23-28

Bama 22-30

MSU 23-28

LSU  23-28

Nebraska 22-29

Iowa 22-28

Kentucky 22-28

Missouri 21-27

MIssissippi 21-27

Mississippi St 20-28