Hypothetical Question
So let's say Peters plays OK. Has his good moments and his bad moments. A typical redshirt freshman. What does Harbaugh do in a couple weeks if Speight is cleared to play? Does Wilton have a chance to get back into the mix? Harbaugh has always been a meritocracy person, so what if Peters hasn't ourperformed pre-injury Speight?
October 30th, 2017 at 12:06 PM ^
October 30th, 2017 at 12:09 PM ^
I think this is probably right. Mix together the "next generation" of QB now starting, and the risk of re-injury to Speight with the most awful potential consequences (eg. a broken back or neck), and I doubt we ever see him take a snap again.
October 30th, 2017 at 1:36 PM ^
Really? Reinjury? Maybe if they put him back in before he's fully healed, but if not, why? I haven't seen evidence that you can't return to 100% after a fracture.
October 30th, 2017 at 8:46 PM ^
October 30th, 2017 at 12:13 PM ^
think it is way too early to declare that. We saw 2.5 quarters from Peters against a bad opponent. Speight v. Rutgers would have looked very similar. You could be correct, but I don't think we have a big enough sample size out of Peters yet.
October 30th, 2017 at 12:20 PM ^
Do you really think Speight will start again? Let's say Peters plays even just average the rest of the year - not world-beater great, but signs of very good play (i.e. Rutgers) mixed in with normal growing pains, which I would say is about what we've seen from Speight the past few years. Under those circumstances, which is precisely what I'm expecting, do you think Harbaugh will bench a player who could be our starting QB for 3 more years for a player with one year of eligibility left who just suffered a very dangerous injury that could resurface?
You could be right, but I very seriously doubt Harbaugh would risk alienating the future at QB at UM...
October 30th, 2017 at 12:25 PM ^
a lot of assumptions. What if Peters gets hurt or has some really rough games down the stretch? What if Speight's injury heals just fine and there is no enhanced risk of re-injury? Speight struggled for a few games this year but he quarterbacked a really good team the brink of a BIG title a year ago. He fell short but he has a wealth of experience to draw from. Peters may be the most likely option going forward but I think it is somewhat crazy to state "Speight will never play another down at Michigan" as though it is that cut and dry.
October 30th, 2017 at 12:40 PM ^
Oh, we agree I think. There are 1000 possibilities that could see Speight start again. But all other things being equal, I think the Peters era has begun and it will continue BARRING UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES, like Peters getting hurt, getting in trouble, etc.
October 30th, 2017 at 1:39 PM ^
what if there was more than one shooter in dallas, that fateful november day in '63?
what if there was a tsunami coming within mintues of you saying your wedding vows, would go through with the ceremony and then run, or would you flee immediately?
what if the refs properly called charlies white's fumble in the rose bowl?
any others....
October 30th, 2017 at 1:48 PM ^
There were probably three shooter teams around Dealey Plaza: one in the Book Depository building, one on the grassy nole, and one in the Dal-Tex building.
October 30th, 2017 at 1:56 PM ^
believe Former Dallas ADA Kevin Costner referred to it as "triangulation of fire."
October 30th, 2017 at 2:06 PM ^
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October 30th, 2017 at 2:18 PM ^
October 30th, 2017 at 3:55 PM ^
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October 30th, 2017 at 5:28 PM ^
October 30th, 2017 at 6:18 PM ^
Her. Too bad!
October 30th, 2017 at 9:31 PM ^
October 30th, 2017 at 7:36 PM ^
I was sitting right there for The Phantom Touchdown, about the ten yard line on that sideline about 20 to 25 rows up... and did not see the ball come out in live action and just thought it was a touchdown until seeing the replays back at the hotel.
October 30th, 2017 at 1:57 PM ^
two teams in dallas, tx - small town then, wasn't even capitalized. I claimed it was a tsuname and fled two weeks before the vows were scheduled, but too one more hit. We would have fumbled back to them anyway.
This is a neat game. You should play this stuff more often.
October 30th, 2017 at 7:41 PM ^
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October 30th, 2017 at 11:58 PM ^
October 30th, 2017 at 12:41 PM ^
If Speight shouldn't play agian for medical reasons, he won't, and he won't be cleared to play. Harbaugh should have nothing to say about that. He also shouldn't be afraid to play Speight if he's cleared and wants to play.
As far as whether Speight could win his job back, based on performance. Who can tell? If Peters is just so-so, then Speight should have his chance. If one player is looking clearly better, you should play him. That's my expectation.
October 30th, 2017 at 6:52 PM ^
...it's Brandon Peters. We can use the Minnesota and Maryland games to get Peters settled in. By the time Wisconsin and OSU roll around Peters will be no worse that what would get from Speight.
So, do we play Speight because his experience might make him marginally better or do we play Peters because he will hold his own against Wisconsin and Ohio State, his upside might actually matter and the experience will be invaluable in 2018?
October 30th, 2017 at 8:44 PM ^
October 30th, 2017 at 10:49 PM ^
But it's really great hypothetical poo-poo
October 31st, 2017 at 11:54 AM ^
October 30th, 2017 at 1:04 PM ^
I think Harbaugh will start whichever QB gives us the best chance of winning the next game on the schedule. Say Wilton isn't back till next season, he's not going to start Peters and have Speight the backup just becasue he's looking at being better in 2019. He's going to do what gives us the best chance of winning in the 2018 season.
October 30th, 2017 at 4:58 PM ^
October 30th, 2017 at 5:07 PM ^
a championship next year, do you really think he will play Peters instead because he has more eligibility left?
Seriously, i usually like your hot takes. But cmon man, the best player reguardless of eligibility left will play each positiion on the field next year. That is what a meritocracy is all about. You earn positions, not annointments.
October 30th, 2017 at 12:23 PM ^
ugh that's why it is a hypothetical question assuming "Peters plays OK". Read the OP dude, he never said based on what we saw from Peters against Rutgers...
October 30th, 2017 at 12:27 PM ^
up. Everybody here is in a good mood this morning and you are all "ugh" and looking for things to bitch about.
October 30th, 2017 at 12:25 PM ^
October 30th, 2017 at 12:45 PM ^
Exactly. If Speight leaves before next year, the QB depth becomes Peters, McCaffrey, then the incoming Freshmen.
October 30th, 2017 at 1:02 PM ^
Also, Speight is "champing" at the bit to get back. I think we will see him again, but my guess is that it will be next year. Doesn't mean he wins the job, but I think he will be competing hard for it.
October 30th, 2017 at 1:45 PM ^
Lurking to see if anyone takes the bait.
October 30th, 2017 at 4:25 PM ^
You've been "champing" at the bit to use that gif haven't you?
October 30th, 2017 at 7:47 PM ^
October 30th, 2017 at 12:40 PM ^
then 2.5 quarters from Speight and he has shown he should not be starting. It is time to play the young kid and let him learn and make his mistakes. The team will be better for it next year.
October 30th, 2017 at 12:49 PM ^
Speight is 12-3 as a starter (won't give him credit for 2017 Purdue).
Peters has played 37 minutes against Rutgers.
If Speight heals he will compete against Peters for the starting job in 2018 and it will be a real competition.
October 30th, 2017 at 1:57 PM ^
please, don't throw out the record like that is a meaningful stat, out side of maybe 2 games last year Speight has basically been equal to Tyler Oconner at MSU in every meaningful metric like ypa and qbr. I have never understood why Brian and many others thought he was a good starter other than the hope he would improve, but he didn't.
October 30th, 2017 at 2:26 PM ^
Your implication being that wins aren't a meaningful stat?
October 30th, 2017 at 3:46 PM ^
October 30th, 2017 at 8:58 PM ^
October 30th, 2017 at 12:43 PM ^
I'd love to know the reasoning behind this.
October 30th, 2017 at 1:24 PM ^
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October 30th, 2017 at 3:46 PM ^
...I'd go as far as to say neither will JOK
October 30th, 2017 at 12:06 PM ^