HTTV Question

Submitted by Shop Smart Sho… on July 29th, 2013 at 7:23 PM

I got my HTTV and shirt today.  Which is awesome.  However, I was wondering if anyone else that had received theirs noticed any issue with cover being pretty beat up.  Fresh out of the bag this one looks more worn than the one from last year that I have read several times.  I'm not really complaining, because the content is obviously the most important part.  However, I was just surprised considering how pristine the 2012 mag was when it arrived.


Michigan Eaglet

July 29th, 2013 at 7:29 PM ^

Not an answer, but I had another question. I'm assuming it would come out later, but is there a timeline for when the basketball and hockey HTTV will come out? I ordered both but only got the Football one.


July 29th, 2013 at 7:49 PM ^

IIRC the kickstarter just said it would come out at a later date or something. Realisitically, it would be insane for the few guys who put together HTTV to do that and the basketball/hockey edition at the same time, especially since HTTV needs to be out before the end of August


July 30th, 2013 at 8:59 AM ^

Yeah, basketball/hockey won't be out until September-October. I wouldn't expect that in the mail until mid-Oct. We haven't even written most of it, and I just started getting the photos sorted out.

Got some awesome shots of the incoming hockey recruits yesterday

Brown Bear

July 29th, 2013 at 7:30 PM ^

Ha! Now it's worth nothing! Don't believe me? Look in the latest Beckett, if its not mint it's garbage.

All kidding aside I am sorry that you received a damaged issue even though I had nothing to do with it.


July 29th, 2013 at 7:37 PM ^

I noticed he slightest bit of wear on mine as well. Maybe it's made out of flimsier material or something? Idk. Not that it matters at all, it wasn't something I dwelled on for more than .5 seconds. The preview itself looks great.


July 29th, 2013 at 7:37 PM ^

Mine was pretty bad. The mail person crammed it into my box all crumpled up next to the Ann Arbor Observer, which is too big to allow the lid to close. Soaking wet and beat up. Sad face.


July 29th, 2013 at 7:56 PM ^

Haven't received mine yet, but I had that problem last year. It was actually beat up really bad. Wasn't crammed into a mailbox, so I don't know how it happened, but yeah. It still bothers me just because I keep all my books and mags in pristine condition (one my pet peeves), but still a hell of a read. Hopefully this year it arrives crisp.

Shop Smart Sho…

July 29th, 2013 at 8:17 PM ^

That is probably why I was so surprised.  Mine wasn't in the mailbox.  I live in a small town, and I know the Post Mistress pretty well.  I told her to expect the package and asked to just have it set aside instead of put in the box.  Maybe for the next round they can use a solid envelope instead of the bags?  That might help prevent the damage.


July 29th, 2013 at 8:00 PM ^

I have a question which I don't think is worth a thread. When does it become available in stores? I picked it up off a shelf at cvs a couple years ago. Will it be available that way again?


July 30th, 2013 at 9:12 AM ^

Right now any ann arbor UGP store (including Moe's) and Literati has a few copies for sale. We're going to be in Costco but probably not by Aug 5 which was the original plan.

If it's all the same buy it at Underground because they do nice things for us like deliver copies to those other stores.


July 30th, 2013 at 9:20 AM ^

You should bug your CVS to carry it and then come back and give them my contact.

The reason it got into that store was Maple Street had a relationship with a newsstand distributor who has a relationship with CVS. When the Maple Street guy couldn't pay us for the 2011 book we asked if he could turn over that contact at least, but instead he went to go work for a different company that publishes preview books and cashed in that relationship that way, since he could rub out his debt to us by declaring bankruptcy.


July 29th, 2013 at 8:07 PM ^

...and the package looked fine on the outside, but once it was opened I noticed considerable wear/damage. Last one arrived in great shape. That said, I can't wait to devour!

Blue since birth

July 29th, 2013 at 8:13 PM ^

Mine was a little beat up on the edge of the cover where it opens. It'll look much worse by the end of the season.

Tons of content and I've barely scratched the surface... I have noticed that Brian can't seem to write a paragraph without mentioning Denard and Devin must have kicked his dog or something. Still well worth the price.


July 29th, 2013 at 8:14 PM ^

Darn, I haven't received my HTTV yet.  Just ordered the book by itself, so I think it should be here by now.  I'll give it another day or two, though.  


July 29th, 2013 at 8:28 PM ^

I got mine in Memphis, TN today in pretty decent shape.

Guess I should feel lucky with the distance and everything.  Maybe different envelope from last year?




July 29th, 2013 at 8:53 PM ^

And this quote from Seth's opening is crazy

By this point we pretty much trust Mattison will plug in competent sophomores and keep the defense in the top 15

How glorious it was to read that and know that it's probably going to be true. We've come a long freakin way in 3 years


July 29th, 2013 at 10:09 PM ^

Mine has some wear around the edges and a few pages have odd little creases in them that run top to bottom.  Also the ones I saw on display at UGP had covers with lots of wear on the edge.  

Nothing to the point I'd go write angry letters to Seth, but I was left with the impression whoever is printing these is having growing pains, which is expected HTTV is with some small time outfit after Maple Street went out of business. 


July 30th, 2013 at 12:49 AM ^

I produce and distribute 35k brochures annually; it's a daunting task.The product needs to be under 13 oz. to avoid additional permit and postage fees. The stock for this HTTV is more forgiving than prior editions (our faithful USPS delivery folk being constrained by time and mailbox size) and the content is fantastic. Well done MGoStaff.


July 29th, 2013 at 10:33 PM ^

My mailman decided it was a great idea to roll it up into my box.  Great idea.  He rolled it opposite the binding (Hamburger instead of hotdog).  So yeah even though there was plenty of space to hotdog it my binding is all weird now.


July 29th, 2013 at 10:48 PM ^

Mine was good enough, but the mail person did jam it into the mail box and bent the cover a bit.  Must have a lot of Sparty mail workers.....


July 29th, 2013 at 10:57 PM ^

The state of my HTTV was fine BUT I noticed the color shading on the stat boxes and bylines are all NEON GREEN and not maize. Was this discussed? It looks a little weird and out of place with the regular and dark colors elsewhere.


July 30th, 2013 at 2:57 PM ^

And the spine has a couple of bends in it. As said above, nothing I'd complain about in a letter of outrage, but I thought I'd add to the data so they can assess the process when it's all done and make improvements.


July 30th, 2013 at 9:06 AM ^

We went down several steps in cover stock and also page stock. You'll also note it's a little smaller than last year's as well. That's because we wasted a good $3,000 last year by having a book that was too heavy to send in the mail as a first class media. We had to get under 13 ounces and didn't want to cut pages, so we cut page thickness. We went with the highest quality stock we could while shaving ounces and just barely made it.

I'm really sorry if the mail beat it up. We did spring for padded envelopes for the ones with t-shirts to avoid that but sadly you never know what the mailmen will do to a package once it's in their hands. Everything went into the envelope fresh out of the box.

If you'll be in metro-Detroit or Ann Arbor I'll swap you a clean one.

Email me: [my name] at [this site]

Shop Smart Sho…

July 30th, 2013 at 10:11 AM ^

I appreciate the offer and the response.  I was actually supposed to be in AA this weekend, but my friend just cancelled.  Stupid real life responsibilities getting in the way of alcohol consumption.  

I'm guessing that shipping in these envelopes is cheaper than using one of the heavy cardboard envelopes that USPS and UPS use?

Mine was wrapped in the t-shirt.  It is entirely possible that the prolonged contact with an outline of the worst state ever is responsible for the damage.


July 30th, 2013 at 9:09 AM ^

Yeah mine got beat to hell.  Not really sure how one tears a thick magazine on the binder side.

Looking forward to reading it tonight, though.