How would today have been w8 team playoff?.

Submitted by kawter on

*edit*: forgot to never post on my phone...

 

With the talk of blowouts etc.. I was thinking how different things would have been if we had an 8 team playoff.

 

First of all, I wonder if we'd have the same rankings after seeing this...

 

1: Clemson

8: ND

 

4: OU

5: Iowa

 

3: MSU

6: Stanford

 

2: Alabama

7: OSU

 

How do you see it shaking out.. Who wins in Bamma-OSU?

 

Think they'd maneuver and change any rankings to make other match ups?

alum96

January 2nd, 2016 at 12:58 AM ^

I think the committe got the top 2 teams right and in the end that's the point.  They got team #3 wrong but that's on OSU.  (and us)

Oklahoma was a very good team that was overpowered by Clemson... they probably were the hottest team in the country. Stanford should not have lost to NW if they wanted to be in.  Or Oregon.  Stanford had a bum defense this year....Iowa couldn't expose that.  Clemson or Oklahoma or OSU would have.

The system worked, the more teams you add the more you take away from the regular season games mattering.  You could argue Baylor with a healthy QB - hell their 2nd string QB should also be in your top 8 by the way.  You could argue a lot of things - the right 2 teams made it to the end.

look up see blue

January 2nd, 2016 at 1:47 AM ^

Why should ND get another shot at Clemson or allow Stanford to play for a national title with two losses. The only team you can make a case for is OSU, but it's their own fault for losing a division game with everything on the line. They knew what was at stake and blew it, which is why the regular season is still meaningful.

Tater

January 2nd, 2016 at 2:35 AM ^

Now that justice has been done and Sparty got the blowout they deserved, I feel much better laughing at OSU for allowing their Michigan obsession to result in a loss to a Sparty team they should have beaten by 30 points.

Michigan didn't directly cost OSU a playoff berth, but a case could certainly be argued that Michigan did indirectly cost OSU a playoff berth.  

FrankMurphy

January 2nd, 2016 at 1:17 AM ^

I used to be in favor of an eight team playoff, but now I think four is actually the perfect number. Two-loss teams should not be eligible, and I don't see there ever being a season in which there are eight Power 5 teams with no more than one loss apiece.

gwkrlghl

January 2nd, 2016 at 1:27 AM ^

I used to be 8. Now I'm not sure. Maybe 6 is the right number so the non-P5 school can sneak in in the right situation but even then, you'd have Iowa and Stanford this year. Eh. Four seems about right now.

Having said that...

1. Clemson

4. OU (big)

6. Stanford

2. Alabama

Still taking Bama to win it all

 

uminks

January 2nd, 2016 at 3:16 AM ^

an 8 team playoff. The 5 major conference champions should have auto bids. Then you can put the 3 best at large teams in.

Friday before Christmas  4 PM:  4. OU vs 5. IA --> 4. OU

Friday before Christmas  8 PM:  3. MSU vs 6. Stanford ---> 6. Stanford

Saturday Before Christmas 4 PM: 2. Alabama vs 7. OSU ---->  2. Alabama

Saturday Before Christmas 8PM: 1. Clemson vs 8. ND ----> 1. Clemson

 

New Years Eve 4 PM : 1. Clemson vs 6. Standford ----> 1. Clemson

New Years Eve 8 PM : 2. Alabama vs 4. OU -----> 2. Alabama

 

The first Saturday night after Jan 7th 8 PM:   1. Clemson vs Alabama.

BlueWolverine02

January 2nd, 2016 at 5:08 AM ^

this 100%. there might not be 8 teams deserving but with 5 power conferences there will always be at least 5. rather add a few that don't deserve it and get blown out first round then leave out someone that does. plus this will encourage better regular season ooc games.

cp4three2

January 2nd, 2016 at 10:01 AM ^

How was Stanford deserving? They lost two Northwestern and Oregon (who State beat) and almost lost to Wazzu. They might be better than State, but they didn't play like it during the season.

Having a system where the nonconference is meaningless would make you have less meaningful games because teams would just try to have 3 home games without consequence.



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Mr. Owl

January 2nd, 2016 at 3:23 AM ^

I actually would like to see a system in place that makes bowls matter more.

Let's go back to traditional bowl matchups that pit conference winners against one another.  Then after the bowls have a national championship game between the top two.

After teams win their conference plus beat another conference champion, we have a pretty good idea who the top two teams are.  If that's an issue, then go with a 4 team playoff at that point.  It would actually only add one game.

Perkis-Size Me

January 2nd, 2016 at 8:20 AM ^

Wouldn't mind an 8 team playoff with 5 auto bids for conference champs, 2 at large, and 1 bid for a non-P5 school, as long as they were ranked in the top-15 or so.

If not, 3 at large, and would love if they could somehow swing home games in the first round for the higher ranked teams. Though I'm sure that'll never happen.



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MC5-95

January 2nd, 2016 at 8:24 AM ^

It would be silly and impossible to do this, but after all the blowouts the past couple of days, how cool would it be to have an 8 team playoff chosen after the bowls? I got Bama, Clemson, Stanford, OSU, Ole Miss, UM, Houston, and Tennessee. Those would be the top 8 teams in my poll right now.



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ford_428cj

January 2nd, 2016 at 8:54 AM ^

I like what Mc5-95 has to say. Would be some awesome games. 

With that said - I'm glad it's not this year & Osu is out. We need a couple more years to be able to hang with the bama's & clempson's imo. I like finishing on a high note this year. It's been awhile for finishing strong & it feels good.

BlueInWisconsin

January 2nd, 2016 at 9:16 AM ^

It would have been stupid because teams that didn't deserve to be there would have been playing. The playoff should be for conference champions only. By doing it that way the conference championship games become an extension of the playoff and the regular season becomes highly valued. I'd say expand to 6 teams and all power 5 champions get and auto bid and the committee chooses the 6th team from among the other conference champions. If Notre Dame wants to play they can join a conference.



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AmayzNblue

January 2nd, 2016 at 9:53 AM ^

The conference champion thing is not as easy as one would think. Iowa was 3 inches from becoming the B1G champ and MSU really didn't show what the B1G can do. OSU and Mich both would have shown up and delivered a much better appearance against Bama or Stanford than those two did.



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BlueInWisconsin

January 2nd, 2016 at 10:02 AM ^

I really don't understand that logic. Why let Iowa in when the MSU-Iowa game was *already* part of the playoff? In basketball you don't get to go to the sweet 16 if you lost in the first round.

When you open it up to at large teams two bad things happen. First the conference championships become meaningless exhibitions. Second you own the whole process up to human bias.



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cp4three2

January 2nd, 2016 at 9:54 AM ^

8 completely trivializes the season. Stanford and OSU are probably better than OU and MSU, but the latter didn't lose to Northwestern or at home with a backup QB.

Going to 8 is simply a money grab and there's still a debate over spot 9. If you want to play in the playoff, don't lose to Northwestern because you punt from the 35



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mackbru

January 2nd, 2016 at 10:25 AM ^

8 is the right number. Allows for all the top-tier teams to have a shot. Nobody complained when the basketball tournament grew. 4 isn't enough, especially since so few of the top teams play one another during the season.



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Blarvey

January 2nd, 2016 at 11:06 AM ^

I am inclined now to put Houston in at #8 vs. Clemson at #1, then:

#7 Iowa v #2 Alabama

#6 OSU v #3 MSU

#5 Stanford v #4 Oklahoma

I honestly think Houston-Clemson could be close but probably Clemson along with Alabama, OSU, and Stanford. Alabama-OSU is a tossup and so is Clemson-Stanford, but I think either way it ends up Clemson-Alabama.

Of course my inclusion of Houston is largely based on their win and ND's loss.

s1105615

January 2nd, 2016 at 11:52 AM ^

But I thnk 6 could work as well.  The only problem with having 6 is that the top 2 teams might want some sort of large cash award just for finishing in the top 2 since they would be missing out on a potential payout that the teams not on a bye would have.  As for ensuring that there are quality Out of Conference games, the P5 should come to a round robin agrement for the first two games of the year where you match up teams 1-X on a home and home basis.  

An example would be the B1G, the SEC, and the PAC 12.  In this system in 2016, the B1G would play the SEC at home, while playing the PAC 12 on the road.  so MSU would play Bama week 1 in EL, and then play at Stanford in week 2.  In 2017, depending on where each team finished in their respective conference, say MSU finishes 4th overall in the B1G, they would play at the #4 SEC in week 1, and would play the #4 PAC 12 at home in week 2.  Then in 2018, the conferences would rotate, so the B1G would play the Big 12 at home and the ACC on the road.

The third non confernce game should still be a non FCS school, so a MAC, Sunbelt, AAC or Service Acadamy/school could be contracted on a one year basis.  

This would have the added bonus of forcing "Independant" **cough Notre Dame cough** schools to join a conference or be forced to relegate themselves to obscurity.