How MSU is prepping for Denard

Submitted by InRodWeTrust333 on October 5th, 2010 at 7:21 PM

Michigan State is using wide reciever Tony Lippett (who?) to emulate Denard Robinson in practice this week. At first glance it sort of makes sense since the guy was a spread qb in high school, but hes 6'3'' and ran a FAKE 4.53 forty coming out of high school. Do they really not have a faster shorter guy to try and show what Robinson can do? Other random things from the article:

Dantonio having trouble moving still, but hopes to get on to field.

Wisconsin game was "best moment of his head coaching career"

http://noise.typepad.com/hey_joe/2010/10/dantonio-is-here.html#more

Comments

amphibious1

October 5th, 2010 at 8:27 PM ^

All of our animals are fast. Armadillos, opossums, rabbits; hell, even our turtles have dredlocks and haul ass... BTW, catching a jackrabbit is damn impressive. Anyone from the muck who catches 1 should be instantly mailed a scholarship from UM.

.ghost.

October 5th, 2010 at 7:24 PM ^

i was sure that Keshawn (sp?) Martin (?) was by far their fastest player.  On that kickoff return for a TD, he actually did look really fast.  Maybe not Denard fast, but he sure doesn't give up much.

 

EDIT:  6'0", 180 coming out of HS.  A FAKE 40 time of 4.4 per rivals.  Either way, he is fast.

MightAndMainWeCheer

October 5th, 2010 at 8:12 PM ^

Sucks that this guy was in class of 2008 and not 2009.  Carr didn't recruit him for the pre-RR portion of the 2008 class b/c he didn't fit the pro-style offense.

Due to his low recruiting profile (2 star recruit, Illinois only other offer) and the new staff's relative lack of familiarity with Michigan HS football they would not have known about him.  Plus they were busy going after Pryor, Shaw, Roundtree, Odoms, Barnum, etc.

It would have been nice if the staff had known about this guy though; he would be a perfect addition to our stable of slot receivers.  He seems very tough and hard to bring down; I almost want to say he's a faster version of Odoms.  He would've definitely been another uncut diamond that this staff was able to uncover.  Instead, he is stuck being misused in MSU's pro-style offense.

I'm very happy with our WRs btw.  I just like being greedy.

GOBLUE4EVR

October 6th, 2010 at 6:08 PM ^

is that martin didn't start to get looked at by schools until his coach sent tape out to every coach in the big ten and mac... plus his HS team his senior year wasn't very good so he didn't put up crazy numbers... i also believe that grades could have been a big issue with him at one point so that would scare schools off also...

Indiana Blue

October 5th, 2010 at 7:29 PM ^

Denard is one in a million and cannot be replicated !!!  Think you can stop him ... think again !!  Total QB  -  can beat you with his legs or his arm, and he doesn't care which he uses !!!

Go Blue !

myantoniobass …

October 5th, 2010 at 7:56 PM ^

I would love to see Denard rip off a 60+ yard run in the first half against Sparty.  I agree with you they cannot fully prep for him.  But I do wonder if defenses can adjust as the game goes on to his speed to stop the big run.  If he continues to gash defenses early (like IU and ND), I would stick with this theory.  Hopefully they don't! Or if they do, more deep passes to our stellar WRs.

maizedandconfused

October 5th, 2010 at 8:42 PM ^

Im guessing that the only real way to "adjust" to denards speed is to have either a S or a Mike shadow him.. either way, your taking a player out of th middle of your defense.

Now what this effectively does, at least with our current H-back set and 3 wide (assuming Z is left) is in man coverage, you have.

Denard: MIKE/S

2 WRs: 1CB/S or 2CB

1 WR: 1CB

That effectively leaves 1 deep safety to cover 3 reciever threats, and there is still a hat for a hat in the box (6 blockers: 4 DL and 2 LBs)

So, from here, the quesiton is "play action or zone read"

Ill take shaw running with 6 blockers for 6 tacklers in the box all day every day.

Ill take our WRs 1v1 with no deep help all day every day.

switch26

October 5th, 2010 at 7:38 PM ^

They can do what ever the hell they want to mimic denard, nothing they do is gonna mimic his speed, or agility sorry..  It's the reason why denard is breaking records no one else ever has, cause there is NO one like him to ever play QB in the nation

bronxblue

October 5th, 2010 at 7:46 PM ^

This always makes me laugh - I remember when the Lakers used Tyronn Lue to "simulate" Allen Iverson in practice before they met in the Finals, as if having a guy with approximate size and in-the-ballpark speed really prepares a team for the leading rusher AND yard gainer in the NCAA.  I'm sure that MSU will say they are ready for Denard, but the first time he flies past a LB on the way to a 40-yard gain, they'll realize how impossible it is to prepare for a player like Denard.  Of course, if "preparation" is just a code word for practicing taking shots at Denard and stepping on his ankle, then I see why they chose a little-used backup.

Steeveebr

October 5th, 2010 at 7:58 PM ^

Denard's speed and agility isn't what makes him so incredibly effective and impossible to prepare for.  He had both of those attributes last year.  What makes him impossible to prepare for is his speed at making correct reads and decisions--his understanding of the system.  Denard makes it looks so easy because right now, if you cheat even just a little bit, he'll quickly see it and execute another option.  Those plays where he runs towards the line of scrimmage and decides to throw at the last second are prime examples.  Unless you can mimic the entire offense of all 11 men being exactly where they are supposed to be to exploit a weakness... you can't prepare.

Oppenent's cheating punishment: facing a fiery death of consistently getting demolished 50+ yards at a time. 

imablue

October 5th, 2010 at 8:07 PM ^

Their LB's are practicing "Repeat after me, 'Holy !%$, is that guy fast!!'.  Let's hope Denard's practicing how to avoid their cheapshots.

gobluefan474

October 5th, 2010 at 8:15 PM ^

I have a friend,who is cousin's with Keshawn Martin and He said that Keshawn said That there going to be using possible recievers at The Defensive back'sPostion...DUMB