Honey I Shrunk the Recruiting Board

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Updated with the new info today - curious who the second Jay Harbaugh yell was.

I didn't include said TE transfer who followded Jay or whatnot.

We have 6 spots open - I'll say 5 with Perry "deciding tomorrow".  And 4 spots with the second mystery Jay Harbaugh primal scream.

No CBs love us.

We're really not a clear favorite for anyone other than the top 2 guys on this list.  (EDIT - Well Wheatley)  Hmm..

Player Announce Pick Ballz
WR Perry Tuesday Not NW  
FB Oliver TBD if any CMU/UM if other commits fall thru?
       
TE Clark NSD 8:30 UM/UCLA UCLA starting to pop up
LB Smith NSD 11:00 GA/UCLA heavy GA, 10 UCLA since 2/2
TE/DE Wheatley NSD 3:15 UM nothing recent
RB Weber TBD if any UM/OSU 2 ballz to UM since 1/29
WR Jefferson TBD if any UM/Ole Miss 8 ballz to UM since 1/28
WR Davis NSD 10:00 FL 5 ballz to UF since 1/23
CB Marshall NSD 4:00 USC All USC

 

Happy trails...

Player Announce Pick Ballz
CB Williamson Mon 10:00 PM UF 10 ballz to UF since 1/28
CB Adams Tuesday? Rutgers Not much impact from visit?
RB Higdon TBD if any IA visited Sunday
WR Burnett Uhhh... WSU nothing recent
CB Arnette Not sure OSU 5 ballz to OSU since 1/29

 

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M-Dog

February 3rd, 2015 at 7:28 AM ^

A lot of things work in our favor in 2016:  a big recruiting class, good talent in our own region, we can offer playing time, the B1G East has some buzz, and Harbaugh and staff will have time to build relationships and get kids to A2 in the summer and fall, not January.

We just have to have a 2015 on the field that does not detract from this.  It doesn't even have to be great, just enough to show forward momentum.  

It needs to be a season at least like Penn State's 2014 season . . . played National Champion OSU tough, had a few key wins, won a bowl game, and most importantly, looked better at the end of the season than the beginning.  It was not even a good season, but it was enough to show momentum.

 

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jsquigg

February 2nd, 2015 at 11:56 PM ^

with much less.  Honestly, this board is going nuts.  Next year will be decent and Harbaugh is going to start building this thing in the right direction.  People need to chill out.

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BlueKoj

February 3rd, 2015 at 9:34 AM ^

Agreed. PSU 4* = 13 of 24, OH 4/5* = 13 of 25, Spart 4* = 5 of 19. UM has 6 and will land 1 - 3 more. This is a tiny class whose make up won't be that far off an average year. The expectations for an elite finish were unrealistic (though possible).

Harbaugh has won with less and will continue that trend. He's got power 5 talent and a roster ready to win, IMO. The 2016 class will turn these recruiting frowns upside down by fall camp (if NSD doesn't do so first).

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BlueinOK

February 3rd, 2015 at 12:03 AM ^

At this point I'd be very happy with Wheatley, Perry and pulling Weber back. They really need some sort of CB though. Marshall seems to be the only one left on the board.



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chatster

February 3rd, 2015 at 12:04 AM ^

Could the recruiting class stop with Grant Perry (assuming that he'll be the 10th commit), if none of the other offered recruits signs with Michigan?
 
Despite what others here have said about having to fill the recruiting class with bodies (even if those “bodies” have no offers from any schools in the United States), couldn’t Michigan’s coaches decide that it’s better to finish with only ten members of the 2015 recruiting class, rather than having to extend offers to low rated or unrated athletes whom they’ve never met, but who might jump at the chance to accept a scholarship to Michigan because they have no other offers or have no offers from any FBS or Power Five Conference schools.
 
Couldn’t the coaches find experienced graduate and undergraduate players all over the country who would consider transferring to Michigan because of the extra scholarships that will be available and the chance to play for Jim Harbaugh and his staff. 
 
If Kyle Bosch, Justice Hayes, Michael Ferns, Russell Bellomy and Keith Heitzman can decide to transfer FROM Michigan to continue playing, couldn’t there be five equally talented (or even better) players who would be happy to transfer TO Michigan next semester?

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m1817

February 3rd, 2015 at 8:10 AM ^

For the most part, if a player is transferring, it is because they were not and do not expect to be a starter with their current team, e.g., Hayes, Ferns, Bellomy, Heitzman. 

Do you really want somelse's Hayes, Ferns, Bellomy, Heitzman?  Remember the heralded Chad Lindsay who transferred from Alabama to Ohio State last year?

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schreibee

February 3rd, 2015 at 8:54 AM ^

I'm in no way advocating this strategy of banking schollies to lure transfers, but I would point out we have one already joining the team next season.

So in answer to your question do we want players who couldn't start for other teams: Most definitely! You make it seem as if we've been good and other teams don't potentially have better players than ours? Chad Lindsey didn't wash out on ability, he was injured. Doesn't mean Bama, Stanford, TCU etc don't have other players that couldn't start for them but that would vastly improve ours! The clamoring for a Kevin Hogan transfer on this blog is a case on point.

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schreibee

February 3rd, 2015 at 9:30 AM ^

No, that didn't happen- but the clamoring happened. It was an example of players on other teams who could most definitely help Michigan. You dismissed that idea - Isaac is already on board.-

I felt I made pretty clear that I'm not advocating banking schollies for transfers, but to imply other schools don't potentially have better players than ours is wrong.

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RioThaN

February 3rd, 2015 at 12:29 AM ^

Well if this was the price to get out there and get Jimmy MF Harbaugh the I say it was really cheap, we have a lot of returning players and that's what is important, it is not like the 2008 team that returned very little and was very dependant on really young players, Michigan has one of the most seasoned groups of players returning and next class should be also kinda small at around 20 and that's a good thing, we have lots of players already in the team and they were pretty decently ranked, if Harbaugh can squeeze the skills this players showed when they were recruited then this should be a very good football team. I don't give a damn if none of the players recruited this year don't see the field this year, that's how much bodies we have returning. A handful of really usefull players down the road in this class will be icing on the top. Players like Frank Clark, Willie Henry or Desmond Morgan weren't higly hyped and they have contributed a whole lot to the team so that's what I expect.

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M-Dog

February 3rd, 2015 at 7:35 AM ^

And the "cost" plays into Harbaugh's hands.  

The issue is what we will look like two years down the road.  That's where we will have a fall off of 4/5 star talent.  But that's Harbaugh's wheelhouse . . . coaching up 3-star guys to play like 4/5 stars.

If you have to be in this position, Harbaugh is the guy you want to be in it with.

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Logan

February 3rd, 2015 at 12:31 AM ^

My guess is with remaining 6-7 spots, we get: perry, jefferson (based on his recent twitter activity), wheatley and two mac-level guys (maybe oliver, josh holloman or wesley french) and we bank a scholly or two for 2016 or transfers. I think we miss out on weber and clark. With our needs now in the defensive backfield, maybe we should take a second look at flipping dior johnson (minny) or tyrone miller (kansas).

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michigan fan 1976

February 3rd, 2015 at 1:06 AM ^

well for some good news, jefferson is back to trending M, the last Cb of the night on clark was M and we are trending for 2016 gary which is great, lets finish 2015 with perry, wheatley, jefferson, weber, clark and marshall and i call that a tremendous haul to finish strong with

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NFG

February 3rd, 2015 at 5:48 AM ^

I think this recruiting season will be good reflection upon the 2015 season. We are all estatic and have very high expectations having Jim Harbaugh as our coach, but once we come back down to reality and see the state of the program, we are going to have to take our lumps the first season before we have success. It's evident that even with these prospects, there is still a lack of trust in regards to Michigan being a successful program, due to having seven of the past eight years of being poor performing seasons. That is why kids are still choosing Rutgers, Nebraska, Wisconsin and Mississippi over Michigan.



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LSAClassOf2000

February 3rd, 2015 at 6:48 AM ^

Even with the name recognition and recruiting prowess of this staff, it's difficult to take over an underachieving program in the closing days of December, assemble and then start recruiting and expect to walk away with heaping piles of success, but what this staff has managed to achieve is still great given the circumstances really. I mentioned it last night, but this class - however it shakes out - may just be a sign of good things to come when you look at how Harbaugh and this staff have managed to salvage, even add to it.

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Don

February 3rd, 2015 at 8:17 AM ^

I think many fans underestimated the challenges that you listed facing Harbaugh and his staff, and that we'll get a much more meaningful picture of how good their recruiting abilities are in 2016. However, I don't see what you're seeing when you use the word "great."

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M-Dog

February 3rd, 2015 at 7:39 AM ^

It's a timing issue.  Those exact same kids would not have chosen Rutgers, Nebraska, Wisconsin and Mississippi over Michigan if it was October and not January.  But to be honest, if it was October, I'm not sure how many of those kids Michigan would even go after.

 

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Mr. Yost

February 3rd, 2015 at 9:03 AM ^

A shut out is possible...or at least of the 

TE Clark NSD 8:30 UM/UCLA UCLA starting to pop up
LB Smith NSD 11:00 GA/UCLA heavy GA, 10 UCLA since 2/2
TE/DE Wheatley NSD 3:15 UM nothing recent
RB Weber TBD if any UM/OSU 2 ballz to UM since 1/29
WR Jefferson TBD if any UM/Ole Miss 8 ballz to UM since 1/28
WR Davis NSD 10:00 FL 5 ballz to UF since 1/23
CB Marshall NSD 4:00 USC All USC

variety...

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SalvatoreQuattro

February 3rd, 2015 at 9:05 AM ^

5 spots isn't  going to make a whole lot of difference to UM's futute success. Next year is important as Harbaugh will have a full year to establish relationships. At this point he hasn't had that chance.

The issue here is people had unrealistic expectations of what Harbaugh could accomplish in two weeks time. Now that they perceive that he is struggling to fill the remainder of this class they are biting their finger nails with worry.

In other words, simmer down now

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Perkis-Size Me

February 3rd, 2015 at 9:27 AM ^

I would not be surprised to see us strike out on the rest of our top remaining candidates. I hate being a negative nancy, but its just a gut feel.

Maybe Harbaugh pulls a couple surprises tomorrow, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised.

If so, all I will be wondering is what the hell was Jay Harbaugh talking about when he said "a-maize-ing" things were happening yesterday?

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